S1E03 · James Longhurst (Voyager Screen Printing)

Hello team. Today we were lucky enough to have James Longhurst on the podcast now James is a very good friend of mine he's a fellow business owner he runs Voyager screen printing down in Frankston. Voyager and Virtus funnily enough share a lot of parallels we we both started in a shed all those years ago and moved into our factories about the same time so you know I've known James for a little over a year now and we've had a lot of very very interesting conversations I was really excited to have him on today we spoke

a lot about his traveling and his his joint journey or his or his voyage as he will like you to call it over the last you know ten so years of where he's what he's done and where he's been and spoke a little bit about running a business and what it's like to be responsible for staff and to have all these other things you need to think about and we talked a little bit about health and fitness as well it's a fairly important priority for James at this part of his life so it's really cool

to get a little bit inside into someone outside the industry but someone who finds it just as important as as we do to look after yourself so yeah enjoy it's go time and here we are episode three to Sunday afternoon we've trained we've had some hummus the beers are open James Longhurst welcome to the podcast how's it going it's good mate doing doing very well now you've had an interesting interesting road interesting voyage so to speak yeah the voyage talk to me oh it's come a long way mate and moving around fair bit through me

20s and then yeah no it's just approaching my late 20s I realized yeah I got to stop I've got to get something set up how old are you now 31 and a half nice nice when you start would you would you oh wait would you grow up now in New South Wales what about sir a couple hours south of Sydney a bit of a hole people a bit of a hole yeah to the people in narrow apologize yeah just the town you want to get out of pretty much like yeah as soon as you can

and then so yes when I turned 18 just got out of there came checked out Melbourne tried to start a band just had that dream yep want to write cool music be creative and stuff and I think Melbourne was probably a bit too big for me so just hit it went north and had a surf in Queensland for a couple of years and just worked in a bar didn't really do much like stuff that I was passionate about you know like just sort of living and existing and then so I hit it over to Perth

got a audio engineering course yeah where I gained these little skills help you with your Mike just you someone's gonna do it yeah yeah I really enjoyed that actually the audio engineering course was really awesome you did you do that 2009 okay I was yeah I was coming into me mid 20s and yeah I gave it a pretty good slog a we had a band and we lived in a house together and all the bank of homans around yeah we were awesome there was three of us I was on guitars there's a bass player and

a drummer good and we had some pretty banging tunes but it just sort of got stagnant and I guess like I pulled the pin on it yeah and that was a pretty big turning point for me because I kept pulling the pin on things and what made you pull the pin oh just yeah just fights with the band mates really yeah like living in that house together they're just sitting around watching TV smoking dari's and I was all about trying to get something done yeah you know yes so so you're working together or just living

and banding yeah pretty much yeah yeah yeah one of the guys was a tape the other was just being a bit of a drop kick so I had to yeah I had to just pull the pin on it and I did almost in a way it was running but also it wasn't working so yeah yeah but then um oh I went pretty lonesome after that one of my mates encouraged me to get my British passport yeah and just head over to Europe and do some traveling so I did it I just got a one-way ticket

went over there and surprised my best mate in Finland awesome that was pretty sick yeah it's pretty pretty funny hey yeah he just had a kid knocked on his door and he's like trot is who's this like he's gonna fight me you know it's total stranger knocking on his door just hey Georgie and then just jumped on him gave me a huge hug and that's all and it was yeah it's pretty sick and then I'm stayed in Finland for like a month in the middle of winter so full culture shock got to just got to

see yeah other worlds full other worlds you know like six feet of snow minus 30 degrees just yeah pretty mind-blowing so I made the most of it I just stayed in Finland for like a month and then I cruised over to England to get some work obviously it's the place to go if you're a bit of a stranded Aussie yeah and lived and worked there for a bit it wasn't really working out again you know I was working for a catering company and driving a van in and out of the city to events and stuff

so it was not a bad job but again it wasn't anything I was passionate about it wasn't at all you know to do with creative arts or music so I guess I was always gonna leave there but I did tick a few boxes while I was there I um I went to my grandfather's hometown in Wales yes yeah it was some pretty special went and seen some other towns like where my parents are from and stuff yeah try to soak that heritage in you know tried to um try to soak it in and but yeah

it was gonna it was gonna come around to winter again and I thought I don't know man I don't know if I want to stay in England so what I did I actually um I legged it one way over to Canada and they just said no you can't come in here man like you got no visa yeah yeah because I wanted to start something right you know like with a community around me friends and be in charge of my own sort of trade yeah like my own craft if it was music or art or something

like that and unfortunately Canada wasn't the place I was like yeah yeah pretty much it wasn't a bad situation like it was just irresponsible and that's I think where I learned what happened did you get to Canada yeah I got there yeah and just the guy oh cuz I'd winged it so hard in Europe yeah like living on a shoestring budget and everything just winging it and then I thought I could wing it into Canada and then they're just like I don't know they got they're covering all their bases I guess which is yeah good

to see but you have to feel like this form you get there and I'm lining up and like this is all good I should be right let's it was an adventure yeah harmless but um yeah he's just like what are you doing here you know what you're staying for what when you're gonna go and I just was like I didn't really have much to say it was just it was a it was a booth yeah and it was like he just he just looked at me and gave me this look like you dickhead but also

like how unfortunate yeah he just put a big strike through my thing go over there and then I it wasn't interrogation but yeah it was immigration and they went through my bags and stuff and they had a chat with me and they rang the people who I'd met like you know partying in Spain with and friends that I've made in in London and stuff and they were just like we can't get in touch with these people and you know you've got nothing planned you saying that you know you're gonna do all this stuff and pretty

much I was just trying to like hide the fact that I was fully winging it yeah and they said you know this this guy is a really friendly older dude he was in charge and he was just like you um it's their job over there to find out if you're gonna be working here illegally or end up homeless yeah and so two good options I assume yeah so it was like your you probably shouldn't come in like you probably should go back and get a visa and stuff and then come back yeah yeah and um

that was a pretty big turning point too because I was safe I felt safe yeah and I knew that like the adventure would carry on I wasn't devastated or anything I was I was at peace and open-minded it's a robot for now yeah just trying to keep flowing through and hoping to land somewhere like real limbo man okay not great not great to be honest but I knew that early 20s mid 20s you still had a bit more time yeah to have to settle so there was a point and I'll never forget it where he

he said you got to go today like the airline will put you back on a flight and you've got to go so here's the list of flights and was four choices it was London Manchester Dublin or Frankfurt Germany and surely Germany well yeah I did I chose that way but the that moment I was looking I just was standing there making a choice and it was like every it's like this sliding door just closed right behind me like everything behind me yeah just did not matter at all like any any of that band staff the

fallouts like all these pointless travels none of it mattered because what happened now I'm on the other side of the world I'm as far away from home as I will ever be yeah shut the door and just go go forth you know you don't know where you're gonna end up and then so yeah I just said alright let's go to Germany and I ended up just taking the worst flight across the Atlantic just like thought I was gonna fall out of the sky I was hectic what was it what was your mindset like on that

on that flight oh it was terrifying because of the turbulence seriously the flight over to Canada was so comfortable yeah and then on the way back I was like what have I done I can spend five hundred quid to get over to North America yeah and now I'm gonna go back and I could fall out of the sky so really it was just a stopover flight to Frankfurt though yeah pretty much yeah exactly yeah yeah from Finland just a visit how's in Canada it counts I guess kind of she never actually went into the country

no I'll go there again that's what they said you can contest it if you want yeah and we'll give you shelter and food but if if you lose you'll never be allowed in North America again and I was like I really want to go see Cali so I'm just gonna go dude when you go to Frankfurt what was what you do survived jet lag and got a bit sick and it Frank first sock man why it was it's like the business finance capital of Europe okay and and and I was just staying in a hostel

just sort of sort of biding my time but I knew Berlin would be cool yeah so after a few weeks or whatever I cruise up to Berlin and that's a rad place man it's a bit of a game changer yeah seeing that place a lot of art around and feeling pretty safe actually hey like the streets are pretty safe there I felt a lot of artists getting around just people like I know having a beer and waiting for a train in the middle of the night to go to some some some bar or some all-night

party sort of thing and I ended up working for an artist just doing like cleaning up his stuff okay and that was this um that's where I felt like the bar system might might come in like I said let me do art for you like you know try to try yeah yeah yeah so it started yeah well a little though yeah pretty much yeah you've got to do it absolutely yeah it's really organic yeah that was pretty special just I'm getting paid to do art and working for this guy what kind of art well he

was optical art he he would like project people's faces on walls paint around them and then add like patterns and stuff and when I was saying to him like look I can clean your dishes and I can put away all your crap and in your trash but give me some art to do let me try something and he's like here's a bike it's I need it sort of painted because it's someone it got stolen I have to replace this bike and then um so I ended up fully you know masking up everything taking off the

wheels and stuff and I did this sick paint job on it and he was just stoked he's like wow this is this is really good yeah sort of way and then he made me do this sick collage and taught me a bit about optical art and I felt felt like um yeah I could get I could sort of make cash and get by by expressing myself somehow and it was a big survival thing man because yeah I had no accommodation so I was hanging out with some squatters yep and getting around to all these like

vegan punk rock sort of anarchist squat places where everyone just sort of interesting combination yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no so you're working for him squatting squatting and then thinking about the impending winter and going I don't know if I can do it and then one of my mates back home said come home let's let's get a house and we'll we'll grow some veggies in there and stuff and we'll live the Australian dream so I came home yeah and that was about five years ago and then it wasn't really working out there yeah I don't

know some other stuff for you Perth when you can I could have came to Melbourne I wanted to because I knew there'd be much more creativity here and stuff yeah but um these were good mates of mine and so I'm like okay at least I can come home to mates like real good mates yeah and they'd had their sort of life and that was changed a bit while I was away yeah without tattoo artists yeah and I was just sort of just sort of working trying to find my feet well a few things a few

things that weren't weren't permanent yeah I ended up having to go in the mines oh yeah and it's pretty sad actually working there yeah that's down on the ground that's no no no I was actually above ground okay but just so monotonous man like same shit day after day after day not for me hey you know that is not for me yeah just being at one place only for work not for any you know no growing of the self or self expression or anything just for cash yeah so I took my cash and I lagged

it over to Melbourne and that's the last move I made and yeah been here in Mel's for about four and a half years now and I know yeah that's what that's when I started screen printing I started my business I called it Voyager because you know I don't voyage anymore I'm staying still that's cool I've stopped but the business and that and that thing that moves forward now yeah so exactly yeah yeah that's it yeah too much stress on the emotions and the state of mind and the body of moving places I'm staying and I'm

stoked yeah it's great yeah yeah yeah man yeah yeah takes time yeah takes a lot of time I learned my trade over a couple of years and I started my business and I've built it over a couple of years and now how'd you get from just coming back to screen printing so it's similar to when the sliding door closed behind me in Canada I was in Brunswick just living off me mining cash just chillin yeah I remember one day I'd met with someone for a bit of brekkie and then I'm on the bike which way

am I gonna go left or right like here's the day it's all mine yeah like what am I gonna do and I could go home or I could just go yeah yeah pretty much okay cool yeah and I decided now well let's just go down here 10 just down into town and see what's happening and I don't know just yeah just circumstances man like this thing yeah exactly that's right yeah that's how life works these circumstances as long as you sort of just follow your intuition in a way and you put your you manifest your

what your desires you know in the right way you just it'll all come together and and it did I bumped into a guy we started talking about like living off grid and and and stuff like that which and and then a dude who introduced me to screen printing came by yeah and he was like screen printing t-shirts to a factory blah blah and I'm catching wind of the conversation and I'm like hey I've been wanting to get into that what's this all about so can I can I come and have a look at your shot

and so I did checked out his place I was like this is sick and I said to him that day I was like man can I do some sort of like tidying up for you or cleaning or whatever if you just maybe show me how it's done a bit or just you know you can pay me in in t-shirts or something so I can maybe get started or whatever if I was able to express myself or you know increase my skills and knowledge or something then then that would that would be great and so yeah

I ended up working there yeah for beer and t-shirts for like three months the two things you need yeah yeah good and uh and then I actually I was getting good at it so I was like I've got to get a job now man I've got to go work for someone and I went for a sort of punk rock sort of small scale factory to a really big place like a really big commercial place in Melbourne and I was the transition like oh I was hungry for it man yeah I was like wow look at

these like look at these machines look at all this stuff and then after working there for a bit I was like when I learned to be good I'm gonna have a factory in a business a print shop somewhere in between when did you tell yourself that oh I don't know maybe yeah maybe like six to twelve months into learning the trade yeah I think it was the desire to be sustainable we know sort of self-employed in a way yeah look after yourself have people working underneath y'all was that always gonna be the way you ended

up well no well I don't know I don't know I mean it's because I was in Melbourne trying to follow an old band mate over and try to maybe you know get a band going and yeah I was gonna go then I would have been touring the country playing tunes in pubs and stuff in a few years yeah but um I don't know I could see it's just came together it was that first year hey I'm just like seeing like look at all these great tools I'm gonna love every bit of this I'm gonna love

every bit and every every step along the way and and then yeah I just I just worked for a year and then and then for the big company yeah and for a smaller guy as well and then I was lucky to move out of town girl I was with moved out towards Berwick and beautiful part of the world it is man yeah yeah well the southeast yeah we are we didn't we didn't we didn't go the whole way with the relationship I just gave myself and my business more attention and I needed to man yeah

it's hard to call it quits and and break it up but I knew that I had to focus on myself I knew I had to cleanse I had to get rid of a lot of arm how did you know that's really hard question I don't know you just um so many people find it so hard to actually make that change and pull the trigger hmm it's um confronting you got to be strong yeah like you've got a you know you wanted I just wanted to be sustainable and I knew that the less I had the

better I would be and you know I had this commitment to this partner yeah and I also had this commitment to myself and I knew that it would um I had to do it for myself so yeah took it on the chin and just set up me little print shop in the garage worked in that house and just you know built it up one thing after another investment after investment and yeah man for sure every little bit every ounce you know and I had to battle a lot of demons in there too man you know

just I went solo yeah and this um screen printing trade is it for me a mantra it's definitely a therapeutic practice yeah because I can exercise my methods physically and become in tune with my surroundings and my tools yeah and it becomes a bit like a ballet and a dance because you've got routines and you get a good flow using using your your breathing yeah trying to control your mental state trying to be sharp you know because you've got to be accurate you gotta be skilled everything's got to be repetition repetition a little bit yeah

yeah so you do get that repetitive sort of process that helps you repeat thoughts and stuff but yeah you've got to be very disciplined and that's the thing that's that's that's the big thing is discipline you need in your craft and in your trade and that was really good for my self-esteem actually just um accomplishing cool things printing cool t-shirts and and then yeah so after that I met snake hole boys hey legends they put a lot of faith in me I actually share its meatballs yeah and I stonzy yeah of legends they um I

had so you were still in the shed yeah man like yeah well here it was everybody everyone's coming from Mornington oh you can print t-shirts that's cool street wear and I want to sell my t-shirts at this retail store around Mornington and yeah I called up milk bar and was like who are these kids like what's your shop and I thought fuck maybe I should look at a warehouse over there and then and then I'm like so caught by the next conversation I had with the chick from milk bar shout out to al from milk

bar because a bit of a leg up yeah bit of a bit of a legend support wise network wise here and I'm like hey so I might want a mural painted in my shop do you know anyone who might you know might be able to be right for that and they you could probably call the snake hole guys yes so yeah fuck yeah man check their Facebook thing out and like there's these legends just having parties just doing cool shit just drawing six years and yeah I was like I'll call these guys they're gonna be

legends yeah and I'm like yeah just want to see if someone here you want to you guys might want to do a bit of a paint job when I move into my my factory I've got a screen print shop I'm setting up yeah and then I remember brownie just going oh well we're actually looking for a screen printer next range you can forget the mirror all night and then once he came out said good day and offered me the the range to print and I was a little bit like lads this is hard this is

this is a linting oh it's printing it was out of my leg I told him I said I've got to eat the humble pie on this one I don't know if I can do it why do so many people find it so hard to say that say that I can't do it I don't know it was hard yeah it was hard to say that cuz I wanted to do anything like yeah well look in business you got to know what not to do and if you're gonna make the mistake and cook that job imagine how

many if I yeah I would rather they would have gone to someone else and then said alright let's try next time with you yeah but um they said no no no no we're not having it now we want you we want Voyager good from them yeah so and then yep you move move over to a factory and set up your shop and now so did you start bringing for the boys when you're still in the in the shade or was it why did the samples in there and then it was a hurricane but you you

just got to take one thing at a time and be sharp look after your body look after your health look after your mental health because I had to print for customers and then and then fully dismantle my shop and then put it in a truck and do like five or six trips from Berwick to Frankston yeah and then set up again and work out keep printing and then work out how to set up your shop and get to you get you to use get used to your new processes maybe and your new routines because your

tools are in different places and stuff yeah and and yeah it's yeah it was it was it was hurricane fully I really feel like I've fully steered that that ship to the to the right place when did you move into shop October two years ago or is it yeah so a year and a half yeah 2015 that's when we yeah I see yeah I think because the snake old boys introduced me to you hmm when we were getting a print done hmm and it was bones it was bones yeah he's just behind you shit yeah

we need to get on video rather than audio hmm and I remember meeting you and you saying that this is when we went in I was like oh shit that's when we went in says he started from a shed there's a lot of parallels between birds and Voyager hmm there's a lot of parents which is kind of cool both like Joe Rogan shout out to Joe it's probably one of the reasons why this is happening yeah more or less more or less but one of the reasons why everything has happened right Joe Rogan yeah I

listen to that guy in my garage while I was working alone it's always going this is great stuff to keep the company and keep you motivated keep you sweet yeah yeah it's because he's always thinking you're always thinking of how it can be better yeah and that's my I've only been on the jargon train for 12 months but it can choose my life when I'm not at work you can choose my life and I love it hmm so now we can have the same conversations about it it's good it's good now I remember when I

asked you if you listen to Joe Rogan I was like fuck yeah you were the first guy around who who who yeah who also listened to Rogan so I would have been really fresh yeah no he got me through man listening to some of those podcasts like you just you're listening to someone say stuff that you agree with everything everything when someone when someone that's why I know anyway and that popular shares the same values and the same beliefs and he asked people the same questions you'd ask there's no it's no surprise that so many

people listen to him and so many people like follow the things he says because he's so he's now on the head in so so many different ways so many different ways it's really funny as as well yeah he's very funny he's very funny he's open man he's open he's breaking the boundaries down you know he's not afraid to open open up and get the conversation going and it's another way to communicate yeah just the radio station hey what you been talking about lately one of the things I love it when he's talked about no one

sits down and has a conversation anymore yeah we all we all find that ten minutes in we're on our phones and I'm a terrible candidate for it and I'm trying to be better but yeah we we jump on Facebook we jump on Instagram we look for that validation when we've got a friend or a colleague or a partner or whatever sitting right in front of us trying to have a conversation and then but everyone's as bad as each other but it's pretty bad distraction I yeah yeah good discipline man what that's all you can really

do you can't cut it out it's useful you know oh you need it to a point yeah and be aware well the world we live in we need that we need it I say need that social media is there regardless of whether we like it or not but awareness is a big thing gotta be aware you gotta say I've been staring at this thing for too long like yeah you can just get lost I'll go on Instagram to check something out or I'll go on Facebook to see just I'll go what was what was that

thing I wanted to see so I'll go there with an intention yeah five minutes later I go what am I doing it's gross yeah yeah you know that's I need my phone I need it for things so I've got a yeah well I use the balance I use the business excuse oh no I need it for work and and that's true to it to a point but definitely not to the extent that I use it yeah yeah but so yeah that we're gonna just keep a conversation going man and hats off to you for starting

this podcast got to do it yeah something that absolutely scares the the living shit out of me but you get the you get traction man you get the hang of it see how we go it's just all right talking to cool people about cool things yeah and the audience will participate as well okay though well you wanted to start your own one I would love to yeah yeah I would yep I just have things I need to do now there's plenty of things I want to do but just yes yeah is the is the word

passion like four or five times did I so far I think where does that passion come from why did you end up with screen printing is it because it's creative oh that's probably not passion yeah screen printing it's just an amazing process using manufacturing yeah as well as science and creativity yeah so I am passionate about overall this screen printing process but it's there's many processes to it it's not just like I go to work and I do t-shirts like no man people need to come to you well now there's a team of five of

us so there's five areas that we're all going to be able to manage yeah as long as the the business keeps growing a little and and we can we can accommodate those five people but it's yeah it's yeah it's cool it's um there's a bunch of processes and they're all hands-on like you have to use your mind and your hands yeah and if you do it well and you enjoy it then you're gonna you're gonna be passionate about it but um that's my thing your passion but it's yeah everyone's good they think yeah seems to

come from working hard and creating something more so than just pretty t-shirts yeah shit yeah yeah that's right where's my passion come from it's just within it's just I've just got a lot of it yeah so I'm using it there but I'm also using it in other places as well and I was friendship trying to yeah grow it grow friendships and um seems to be working yeah the other thing is teaching man that's at the shop so teaching the boys I'm so passionate about about teaching those guys sharing my knowledge giving what I've made with

my mind to them so that when I see them doing it using their mind that's it's really special and like I'm super passionate about sharing knowledge you shouldn't you shouldn't yeah you shouldn't hide things you should yeah we get stuck in our bubbles a lot mmm don't be afraid to help someone don't be afraid to share a little something with someone don't be insecure thinking that oh like what's this person gonna think of my my thing you know absolutely yeah and then yeah it's up to them how they feel about it and yeah but the

guys are going good talk to me about what's it like having five staff you're now responsible I know I'm one of them so it's okay so you got two boys to it two boys at work you gotta have faith man you two apprentices yeah yeah two supervisors and two apprentices hopefully yeah there will be a team of five yes you're responsible for the livelihood of five people yeah pretty much what's it like I got heaps of faith man yeah it's risk you just got to risk it everything's risky when I first took cam on I

was a man I was a little bit like I reckon I can pay this guy was he the first one yeah I was a little bit I was very much like all right I reckon I can I can I'll be right a little nervous that I can now like all this income has to go to this guy and it has to go full-time because that's what he wanted you know he wanted the whole five days a week yeah not something casual like take some cash yeah and I'm gonna be all in yeah and but I

just had this vision man and that's another one there's having a vision whatever you're gonna do if you're gonna have a business or whatever you've got to have a vision and if you ask him he'll say dude the guy was telling me when I first started that there'd be five people working here you know I'd be like walking around the shop going now there's someone working there all that stuff there enough work for someone to be doing that things and that's just me every day man but um yeah we just built it and you just

I just persisted and then when I took on Matt I was pulling out me collar a little but that was it coming boots coming up to the busy time of the year and and and we sustained yeah and for sustainability and longevity it was smart for me to try to find two more guys that were passionate and interested so that we can accommodate that work man because I've done any marketing a yeah so it's a ripper community of yeah people that see something good and want to share and I'm so stoked man I after all

of these years of moving I'm here in this cool place morning soon peninsular region that's part of the world I haven't even hardly explore it man I've stayed in Frankston building a business and I'm starting now hey it's exploring time yeah soon soon a little bit more teaching and growing today yeah but um how does it feel to be responsible for mobile good really good man yeah I've got to be a good role model keeps you on your toes yeah absolutely yeah yeah and and that's why you're seeing me down here more often good because

finally starting to look after yourself yeah I've started I finally got access to look after myself you know I can yeah commit I believe in myself in in that way health and fitness now okay why is that health and fitness side of things so important to someone and from my point of view see you go from when I first met you and I think it was just you I don't think mmm cameras there when I first met you no no it was just you and you've like I haven't seen I don't know many people that

work as hard or have the same kind of work ethic as you but what when did you realize was so important start looking after yourself properly health fitness wise because you know I wanted to yeah you always wanted to you used to say but but years before ten months what it takes so long well I had no car I trust you man yeah yeah I needed a friend yeah good I needed a friend to show me the ropes you know like moving to Frankston I didn't know anyone I yeah I just liked it and even

when I came to Melbourne five years ago I knew a handful of people yeah but it's really cool when you got a fuck yeah yeah so why am I coming down here well I got a car now and I got guys that can work if I take a day off yeah yeah and I'm not gonna go and be Hollywood you know go and have expensive lunches you know in town or something no I'm gonna I'm gonna do something that's gonna support me supporting that you know yes I don't just come here what else you do

I do heaps of yoga why yoga why I just just fell into that as well my ex was heavily into yoga and she was an instructor and so I would see a lot of her moving and how she yeah just it just gets into your mind you know I never practiced it with her yeah but um when we split up and I stayed in the house I like I was I was on my own doing Voyager in the garage and whenever I had time to myself I would just go inside and stretch around and all

of a sudden because I was on my own like I just focused on myself yeah absolutely man yeah like I went away from society and community but I went in to myself big time and I managed to just get rid of a lot of stuff and pick up a lot of get rid of a lot of our stuff put in a lot of good stuff so the yoga I just like I sent I would just send to myself and start listening to my body and moving it and and working with breathing and that I think

I needed that before I could come in and pump iron with you of course because I moving comes first I needed to open up my body I needed to work where where the hell is the energy where are the problems yeah and I just ever since I started doing yoga two years ago it's just been a game-changer yeah letting go of a lot of things and it's it's a swear by it man good it's amazing how important was allowing yourself to disconnect from the world to a point to invest in yourself and reinvest in yourself

how important how important it's everything yeah it's yeah for sure and it may come a time where it need to be done again they may need to be done again you live in a city and as a lot of I think is the word disparity is the distance between humans yeah and I just give up on it man we have so much information and so much coming at us all day every day not not too many people I guess give themselves that time for themselves and like we talked to a lot of different people in

here who just struggled to disconnect and so wide all the time and it's something I'm not great at confronting yeah it is confronting I'm not great at it but I try and allow myself I call it loss time yeah purely because this is time for me and it might be hanging out with KP it might be going for a walk it might be going for a swim might be talking shit with you it for a couple hours on Sunday like whatever it is it's time that I want to be doing I'm doing what I want

to be doing and so many people struggle with that you should have a hobby or something to keep you busy to keep you alone to get you out of everything like it'll benefit your relationship it'll benefit your employment it'll benefit your mental health but you what it for me the screen printing thing the garage print shop man that was just um it was just amazing for because I was keeping busy yeah but I was I was the engine was running building something physically but the engine was running mentally as well and spiritually yeah so you

want to be brave to go out there and and be and be alone take some time out and that mine's probably a bit more extreme the most eyes yeah but I had a lot to add a lot to explore and develop but yeah what advice would you have for people who are just like so connected with everything what advice would you have for them to be able to become a little bit more insular and actually figure out what's going on in their head I don't know man you've got to um you got to manifest and

you've got to be patient patience so no quick fixes no man like if someone's listening to this podcast thinking that's what I want and then tomorrow they think it's gonna happen yeah no you don't know you've just got to go to June you got to say it's a voice fuck yeah you really just have to manifest that what you want and go here's and that's what I did all over those years I just I want that fucking craft so yeah you know I had the vision yeah not quite but I had the desire you gotta

you gotta want to be doing something that's gonna stimulate you more than the distractions in the world because they're unhealthy yeah you know you've got to switch off the TV you've got to put down the phone and just leave it in another room yeah or you've got to be and it alright so what's my advice just take a deep breath in and then that's the best way to start I could talk for ages about how to how how you could maybe find something or you could you could talk for ages about how someone could find

something go try a sport or go try a club or but you just have to breathe in and just let it go and go alright this is all that's here yeah and all that shit is so pointless and when you do that you can go right my body is important and I have to look after it yeah so I'm gonna do some yoga and I'm gonna do some swimming and do some what we're doing before farmers walks farmers walks bit of movement prep yeah some mobility work yeah some SMR very very important there's other things

I'd like to do but I might not be able to do them because I'm full I don't have any time left I'm busy I'd like to do some Muay Thai I'd like to be in a band there's actually one just a couple of street there's one close to the factory I could go there after working hours and stuff as well do you think you'll kick up start a band again it's just it depends if it comes my way mate yeah hmm I'd like to but you know if it happens that happens yeah I got my

priorities number one boy Joe pretty much man yeah yeah where do you want to take it and feel free not to say the the secrets that you yeah yeah yeah yeah you want to cap it yeah I think so yeah you want to cap it because if you get too big you got too much to it can crumble yeah too much for it to crumble but I want a break that's what I want next absolutely I've been slogging this out for two years yeah non-stop man day after day after night weekend every just you know

might take a long weekend off but a long weekend off for me is just not answering the phone or doing emails yeah or printing days it's rearrange in the shop so that it can work yeah you know yeah because it's not just printing teas and making money it's making systems work in the shop and and stuff like that well that's once everything's working to a point that's the next step how do we make it more efficient how do we make these yeah that's right yeah so I've got two new guys I've got to teach them

and the two guys that I've had for a while now they're they're gonna have to go into like a bit of a management position to oversee things because if I get distracted with you know the major management then they can go in and go alright so what's he taught ya let's help you so it'll be a team of five strong good and that's better than a team of ten weak correct very so we're gonna we're gonna yeah we're gonna be a good team we're gonna enjoy our job and enjoy our lives you know we don't

we don't want to come into a place and work and this sucks and we just want to enjoy what we do and personally man I need a break you said where do we want to go I became for some retail yeah some a little bit of a clothing range of my own good just so that I can express myself that way someone's gonna come up against the snake oh no way not after what they went through their stuff sick the new stuff is so sick yeah I don't know mine will be different I don't know

what mine would be but I got a little retail store out the front and my thing next is to market market it market Voyager and market the retail store we haven't hit that yeah I haven't done nothing that's cool so um yeah put a bit of a face on the place yeah and I'd really like to have some spring summertime markets at the front of the shop cool we've got a pretty decent sized car park and every almost everything in the shop is on wheels I'll bring some vertice match yeah which you printed all of

yeah give it back we need to sell it here yeah we can get rid of some of it I'll be happy yeah man oh um you you're a creative guy so you and I could come up with it we could come up with a we had driven guy so if someone gave you a bit of creative advice you could be driven enough to make something work so if it was me and you to team up on a little clothing label or something or some t-shirts that we could sell then why not wheel out the tables

and we'll put them up and people can come past and go they look shit I'm not buying that oh they'll go they're sick let's have some yeah yeah and just get the community together as well it's dumb that's important word that it's a very very important word community hustle oh shit yeah man try it I'm not having one yeah oh it sucks hmm why why is the community so important to you to me I don't know yet because I haven't had one good answer mm-hmm I haven't had one joining one night yeah I know yeah

growing yeah growing a couple actually a couple of groups of friends around now since I'm having stopped moving places yeah when you're always moving that helps only gonna know the people you knew you know when in your hometown stuff the roots are down yeah I love those people back in my hometown yeah and there's been plenty of people along the way that I've met and loved but they're just not there I'm not big on the social media keeping in touch so when I when I would not when you when you're so dialed down into building

Voyager and helping your staff tick along and grow and improve and teaching them it's hard to I guess distance yourself to a point where you can sit there on social media and reply to everyone and talk to everyone and all that kind of stuff yeah I'm on the computer a lot because managing the business doing administration so I can reply to those sorts of things yeah good in the past you enter a town or a city and you stay there for a short while you're not gonna establish any community yeah and then you move on

and you're not gonna really well me personally I wasn't gonna write to those people and say let's catch up at this next town that I'm at yeah I'm gonna move again and then I'm gonna move again and meet some more people and yeah it's just fleeting and it's yes but yeah now that I'm immersing in some particular communities around here it's cool being able to see the good in others yeah there is there rad and why is it important well we can help each other doesn't happen enough no you can help you can just yeah

like you can help each other I feel stoked to be the printer for the snake hole because I want to help them yeah and for you as well doing your last range having given you those samples that you can go show off and I'm just stoked to be helping yes it's good love what we do in there and it's for me it's I just want to say everyone around me go well and it's pretty cool little I guess collection of businesses that are starting to get together that's mad help each other out and work together

and just local businesses like common folk and snake hole and barbershop and Co and brewery and who needs a city who needs big business yeah it's all just just a bunch of helping each other yeah yeah that's a good area helping each other because we want to help each other not helping each other because there's external reasons or whatever it's just everyone's got something to offer well it's obviously a lot of driven people around you know they're seeing the opportunity in there and they're taking it yeah taking the opportunity you know like hey while the

sunshine I'm shit at those things that play on the boys are I just write them on my walls and they are evidently hmm I said a bad one when we're playing darts which one I don't really care though it was funny what did I say honesty is the best bet that's enough best policy yeah who says that that sucks I don't know I do love a quote though honesty is the best bet okay what keeps you on day in day out what keeps you working so hard oh the dream man the end game the end

goal there is no end game there is my mate you climb the man you just want to climb it up what's the end what's the dream what's the end game I want a house off-grid awesome off-grid fully sustainable oh yeah probably well probably no yeah I don't want to be too far away from Voyager good but that's what I want it's a beautiful quiet packing store antiques capital of the world yeah right where you want to be you want any place existed until you move there yeah every one of your posts comes off-grid yeah man

I just got a stainable oh yeah that's um I'm so so excited to do that one day and voyages like my stepping stone there yeah so whatever I can build that I will it'll culminate and eventually hopefully man yeah I'll do whatever it takes like I've got another mountain to climb later on absolutely yeah I've got a learn sustainable living practices I've got a you know resource find the resources but yeah definitely man I'd love to have a house with veggies growing and chickens animals yeah no I don't know if there's any gonna eat those

animals I must probably not mate no talk to me talk to me about your current food nutrition choices it's going really well it is yeah that's good I'm feeling great about happy yeah shield not enough how can we be more fuel more fueled I have to be less busy yeah less stressed out and I need to change my lifestyle a bit yeah become a morning person hmm because that's hot yeah I think yeah I got to get up early I flip it do some exercise and then have a have an appetite yeah so that we

can really start with that good foundation because I've never been a morning person and neither right until I opened a gym and started coaching at 6 a.m. 5 times a week and I think it's one of those things that you're not motivated to be up early in the morning until you realize how enjoyable it is to be up early in the morning yeah I used to be up till 11 30 12 12 30 at night trying to get up at 6 twice a week yeah now now you know we had shit nights and nights when

I won't get sleep on time but try me in bed at least by 10 10 30 11 sleep six good quality hours which not enough which the Fizz Greg day 9 tells me that noise the minimum 9 I tried tried to reason with him can you just give me an 8 and a half please help you better tell me six tell me six but if I have nine I have 15 hours to do cool shit throughout the day six 18 hours that sounds a little bit more exciting but it just builds up and builds up

and I had three days last week with my eyes felt like they were gonna fall out of my head so a couple of days of rejuvenation and regeneration and we'll be back in business but imagine if you weren't looking after your body yeah well yeah well I guess being in this field being in a gym where people are moving and eating well and looking after themselves physically and mentally it makes it a little bit easier but yeah if you were around slobs you are a product of your body yeah it's as simple as that but

yeah you wouldn't be getting up that early no no so yeah all you gotta do is just start yeah well I did I did the other day yeah Thursday shit yeah got up early I got up at six good instead of what would you do before before the boys came in I went for a swim good did some laps I love swimming because I can just put everything around my head like the goggles and everything get on the water there's nothing there but me it's right water yeah and I'm just working out and unfortunately I

can't do that for another couple of weeks because I just got tattooed awesome yeah it was the same day getting tattooed I've got a sleeve we're working on here yeah what's the centerpiece it's mostly Buddhism yeah Buddha up the top the dragonfly lotus meditation bell awesome so I had to do a sitting of that and so my whole get up early go swimming routines no so I have to get up early and go running but I'm not allowed to run to the rod my ankle and told two ligaments couple weeks yeah I do it all

starts with the wall I know but but don't give me that shit what's it but no no I've been walking for ages I've been walking every morning for almost a year now good do a lap how far I don't know it's like a can of half cool that's good just enough to smash down half a liter of coffee but I'm not half a liter of coffee I'm over that I can't can't be doing that instant coffee or no no it's coming back beans no it's Jeff and Jeff special look true and knows about that a

good from Jeff I look true good visual shout out yeah and the boys they know about Jeff is a legend he's got a right he's got a takeaway just down the road it's like it's like a hundred hundred meters or so from the shop I just get it wakes me up put some money I'll just put him put some money down oh it's just a big coffee it may as well be half a liter Jesus I'm trying to try and quit coffee I just go with multiple why would you do that I just go I'm

addicted to it I uh yeah we got a coffee machine a few weeks ago yeah it haunts me it sits there all day and I'll have my coffee when I come in and then 6:30 I'm like hey I could have another one I'm trying to try and justify it to myself so I got a problem a couple of gnarly days on the coffees on Monday Tuesday Wednesday but not your fault Tommy T's brings you a sense of coffee yeah it's Tommy T's phone yeah Tommy T and the and I say I've been trying to be

better fight I went to common folk before and was delivered a jug of coffee six shots and it got me up and about for a little bit but now you're just falling asleep right now I'm good man I'm talking you to sleep you are yeah there's nothing wrong with that there's nothing wrong with talking to sleep it's uh yeah it's something we need to look out for over overdosing on coffee yeah look when you go go go all the time it's really easy to to stay in that mindset and to do things that help you

stay in that mindset but we need to disconnect and we need to give ourselves time to relax and get away from it and put more time like you said before into ourselves and give ourselves more time hmm I wasn't like how dependent I was on the coffee yeah I want to make a change first thing in the morning somehow with something I don't know some kind a probably not I've been smashing a bit a bit of warm lemon water yeah nice it's just I don't know it's good for cleanses I've got some lemons for you

can I take some home yes thanks to James and Dave for dropping off a washing basket yeah there's enough for everyone I love you guys first are 20 listeners coming for a lemon your name will be written on the lemon all right I'll sign the lemon I'll sign it too yeah you have to be here when they come in yeah oh we just signed 20 lemons and see what happens yeah what's on yeah honey - none of that cheap processed crap so that's the thing right like I've gone I've transitioned to veganism and it's mostly

because I want to eat clean you know you might say eating you know meat is clean this and that yeah I don't mind but there's just so much processed crap no you're right it's not it's not just meat products it's if I am conscious of cutting things out of my diet for reasons a range of reasons then I'm gonna say well I want to do I want to eat this food that you know I want to eat great vegan dishes and you know I want to eat more greens and and and like I want to

learn about these really healthy vegetables and all this new stuff and I don't know nothing about nutrition man like yeah absolutely give us podcast number two listen yeah for sure I've learned apes man since some since trying veganism I tried it a few I tried it a few years ago teaches a little bit yourself as well yeah you've got to be organized man you cannot you cannot skip your meals and because yeah you have to eat more you actually have to eat more oh yeah but I feel good I feel great about that because I'm

gonna eat more great food great food it's all you know mostly organic if it's greens it's vegetables and majority of it's gonna be more nutrient dense than energy dense because if you're cutting out all the processed crap and all the stuff that doesn't have a lot of substance to it but has a shitload of calories and kilojoules and you're probably looking after yourself but it's just a matter of making sure that you get the right you can screw that up you can't you absolutely can screw it up like you can miss out on iron and

you can miss out on protein and yeah so that organization allows you to make sure you're ticking the boxes and not missing protein or missing iron or missing all those all those things that you're gonna get from say eating meat or whatever you've got to find the substitutes that allow you to do what you want to do mm-hmm yeah it's hard to make it more worthwhile I want to accomplish that I want to I want to be able to go look look look at the shape I'm in look at how I look at how I

feel look at my smile you know look at my peace of mind my clarity look at my immune system so it's a challenge and I want to try and achieve it I'm trying to be a ripped another voyage happy vegan guy good good as long as you don't turn it hippie I'm happy I'm gonna start doing crossfit as well you would not in here I'm sure we can find you on that I don't mind I mean yeah that's um I'm happy with it and if anyone wants to have a discussion about it it's good I'm

open to I'm open to share and recipes or there's plenty of people who want to share recipes mm-hmm well of veganism vegan vegan dishes though of course mm-hmm gotta keep it above board got a couple of questions for ya yeah and before we we do the my five questions to finish up you have five questions where'd you get the nickname Hara James meatballs yeah I wanna hear meatballs gave it to tell me the story I just am a hurricane I am I work I work fast I work hard everything's gotta be done quick everything's I'm

doing five things at once you know leave a trail of destruction no no no no no no no trail of organized efficient sometimes mate you're walking to my shop you go what did what did you even put in here is it's clean nothing good it's good like my gym on a Sunday fuck yeah yeah you didn't even train people in here it's beautiful it is it is looking good except Greg keeps work drawing on the walls shit yeah the Fizz you gotta be drawn on those walls yeah I love it all right mmm yeah Hara

James it's all right it's meatballs is hilarious he's a hilarious he's a fella let's get him on yeah yeah for sure do one if you want to do one-on-one first to introduce him to the crew I might do one with the snake old boys and yeah and then we'll do one I'll join in with one with my balls deal yeah we'll do a communal on podcast by the way man this is sick what you're doing super fun having crew on hopefully it goes somewhere hopefully we can we can grow it yeah do more of this

all right I got five questions for you to finish this off what is the nicest thing you've ever done someone mmm shit these are not simple questions thinking is needed all right can I hmm can I change it can I change the question so I did something nice or someone just recently yeah so there was get together and there's a group of us and there's one person who had a dietary requirement she was a vegan yeah and I also was and when we're ordering food it was a little bit unsure so actually no this is

a shit one would you like to change your answer yeah absolutely all right hit me what do you got you've got to cut that out I'm not cut didn't start well the nicest thing I've ever done someone doing all the time yeah give me one give me a simple one free samples free sample free sample printing yeah what I don't know man I do it all the time do nice things for people all the time well that's good can you ask me again what's the nicest thing you've ever done someone I'm not sure yeah I

don't know I think yeah I can't think of that but I always do nice things for my staff good I teach them good things yeah mate you've put four people on it's pretty nice it's good my point of view whenever I need anything I call you and you do it so that's nice question number two if you could give teenage James one piece of advice what would it be just look after your body good yeah I wouldn't want to change anything because I'm happy extremely happy where I am and what I'm doing now good I

wouldn't ever want the path to have gone any different way it's just a journey it's some it's a voyage excuse me yeah just dude you you've got a start take you've got to take your health seriously you've got to take your bones and your muscles and your spine and your neck your head you learn pretty quickly if you don't look after yourself don't don't smoke siggies don't drink too much beer just a little bit of beer oh yeah occasionally yeah not too much yeah just you have to your body is all you have so 15

year olds the vessel to get you through life yeah but keep playing guitar because you got fucking good good what was the last book you read start to finish and what did you learn from it the alchemist yeah hello hello I've got that sitting at home on top of my book pile well let me book by you tell me what you are gonna learn from it I don't know I haven't read it yet so when you finish reading it what'd you live from that to me that reading is that it really is like one of

very few books I've read I'm such a shit reader I can't do it man I should be finished it oh yeah from all all the way from page one to the end good what you learn was a one take-home point well manifestation is important yeah so if you want something you should sort of think about that every day and I just keep stepping towards it your steps towards it may not feel comfortable and might not feel right may not be easy but also the alchemist is cool because the guy in it like he turns I

can't remember he turns sand into gold I think yeah so it's like that magic side is it's pretty sick you can yeah get pretty deep about turn something make something out of nothing good oh that's it I'll have to get get to it mmm that's a quick raid - it's a really quick raid now I think I know your answer this one who do you love listening to or reading about who's doing cool shit who do you love listening to or reading about yeah who is that one question it's one question and what was the

next it could be listening to it could be reading who do you read and bro yeah yeah yeah man we spoke about a little bit but look when I was in my garage I was like I need some stuff to listen to isn't a fi or punk rock yeah so who's that well my mate the first screen printer I met yeah he would go on about Joe Rogan but for other reasons because of the you know the his views on marijuana and drug use and DMT and he was raving about how he goes on all

these cool trips and stuff I wasn't so much what I was totally interested in but yeah but he didn't say hey listen to this podcast it was that it was the time like autumn it was in my garage a couple of years ago where I was like I need some tunes to listen to or I need something else I just went oh fuck you I'm such Joe Rogan and there he had a podcast I was like no way and I listened to him talk shit and it was great and I think maybe Bill Burr was

on one of the first ones who's the guy from on it on at Academy all remark over Marcus his podcasts are amazing yeah with Rogan yeah so the ones he does are good Joey Diaz's ones are good they're all the ones that the other guys do are all cool but Rogan's as well produced he talks about he talks to and about so many different things and people that it just opens everything so that's what I love it yeah man for sure yeah like his range of guests it's so non-discriminate yeah yeah he's got scientists he's

got athletes he's got comedians he's got people who have been politicians that he had a chick from who left Scientology so everything that's kind of you know important and and current yeah and health heaps of health stuff like Rhonda Patrick's she's amazing she's one of my favorites mmm so Rogan man I listen to each of Rogan he's just if I've got time in my get like when I was in the garage I was on my own so I could just listen and absorb but then obviously moving into the shop and having guys to teach and

stuff I would talk to him well I couldn't listen as much so it's that whole I don't talk to people stuff it's ruins the podcast next one yeah what is what is success to you I asked myself this the other day I answered it really well all right success to me so well you have to set yourself a goal you have to have a bit of a vision and you have to set yourself up with something that you want yeah and then you've just got to get it that's it pretty much like I feel so

successful good even though I haven't got that final thing but every little goal along the way every little bit that I've gathered has been a success because it's you can fail yeah good we want to fail yeah fuck you'll go through fuck ups yeah yeah you'll go through cooking it and you'll go through madness and figuring out how to get it right but um yeah having goals getting them done that's that's success little goals one after time yeah yeah for me personally yeah I'm sick I feel successful every day but um still want more things

still want to keep going yeah 32 in six months and then looking forward to when I'm in my mid 30s just not being who I was in my mid 20s right yeah that's success hopefully I'm successful hopefully I'm just as successful as I am now successful in life building what I want and finding all the things that I've manifested yeah what about you what about me success to me is and I've used this answer before but I'll repeat it because I love it it's wake up in the morning and go on about at night and

doing whatever I want to do in between yeah which is like it's a simple I think I heard the quote from someone but it's something that I've kind of used as a little bit of motivation is if we're not having fun and if we're not doing the things we want to do what the fuck's the point like it's it's pretty simple to just follow these words like passion and follow things you love doing and follow things you want to do but not enough people do it not enough people do things because they want to do

it people do things because of whatever external reasons whether it's what you what your mum dad think or what your friends think or your partner thinks but if you do things that you want to do for yourself then everything else will fall into place if you do the right things for the right reasons and everything for you the right things for the right reasons yeah fuck yeah yeah and that's as simple as that hmm last one what's favorite quote come on oh it's not coming to me can I just I'll post it on the face

right thank you that's all right now we thank you are we I didn't get to ask you much ask me a question now no no no I want to talk to you talk to me would podcast number four I'm coming back we've got to cut it now people get bored I'm sure probably how long to be gone for how have we done three hours yeah I don't think we hit three oh look man um thanks man thanks thanks for having me on to have a chat and I've got a lot of personal stuff talked about

and maybe stuff that some people might not find so interesting but at least I get to yeah come down and yeah you know it took a long while get to a cool place and but um obviously man you putting yourself out there too having a good crack it's a plan taking a risk and you know having fun what's the point yeah enjoy enjoy the next few podcasts and it was coming on just have fun come over and have a chat and this won't be the first with this will be the first but won't be the

last time you're on this podcast so cool I very much look forward to the next one I might just get you to interview me I'm gonna talk shit yeah right you some uncomfortable questions to answer thanks mate pleasure good from you sick