S3E42 · Steph Maskiell

I'm hoping you heard that because I think I just yelled into the mic. Welcome back to another episode of the Lotus Podcast. We have a resident client and moderately OG, I would say. Ish. I'd say Ish. Ish. I'd say Ish. Yeah. Part of the furniture. Yeah. Today we have Steph, formerly new one, now masculine. Correct. Nailed it. I was nervous. Steph for those who don't know, and everyone knows Steph and everyone loves Steph because Steph cooks for everyone and Steph makes people smile. Steph is a long time Lotus client who's been around for five years. Yeah.

Five this June or July? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's five years. Yeah. I was having a look at it today, actually. Yeah. I actually was. You were doing your research. I try to. Sometimes. Steph and I are going to talk about a whole bunch of things today. And Steph, would you like to introduce yourself, and then let's introduce your topic for the day. Oh, hi. I'm Steph. Hi. I'm Steph. I play netball. Yeah. I play netball. I like to bake. Give me a Steph starter pack. I listened to Shane's episode today, which isn't out yet, but I was just going back.

I know. I'm looking at the board. It's going back and coding some stuff. And I actually started off that podcast with give me a starter pack. So, hey Steph, give me a starter pack. Steph starter pack? Steph starter pack. Steph starter pack. That's a mouthful. Okay. If I was a starter pack, it's going to be Tyler sneaking into the room. No, I'm kidding. As per usual. As per usual. Get out of here. Double thumbs up. It'd be... Geez, I don't know. That's hard. That's why I ask it. Yeah, I know. Books. Books. Baking. Coffee. Coffee. Weekend.

Weekend. Weekend. Yeah, massive weekend warrior. And just all round nerd. I think. There's nothing wrong with being a nerd. Love being a nerd. I tell my kids all the time. Not my own children. Just, I don't have children, but I teach children. Just... Mother, if you're listening. Hey, she's a subscriber now. I download it on her phone and subscribe her to YouTube. She asks me, she's like, "How do I get it, 'cause I really want to listen to you." So, "Hi, mom. Love you. No, I'm not pregnant." Yep. So, every time I reference children, I'm not referencing my own.

How did that go after your wedding? Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that. It was too easy. I've got words. She was just sitting there in front of me. Set it up on a flatter. Steph, before we officially kick things off, give me a heart rate check, please. Oh, okay. For everyone playing at home, Steph has an Apple Watch, so give us five minutes. Sub-par system. More of a fashion accessory. See? Look, we're still waiting. Yeah. I wanted to get 78. That's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. My resting is... Oh, no. It's gone 76 now.

My resting is like 48, 49. But that's like... You're doing a light jog. My light jogs weren't getting up there. I know. It's not getting up there. Gentle stroll through the park. How's your day been, Steph? It's been pretty good, actually. Work, as usual, but got to head out and coach SAS basketball with the seniors, and we got the W, which was awesome. Coach Carter. Wouldn't go that far, but yep, that was fun. Kids are cool. I like going out and doing things that aren't in the classroom with them, because then they sort of really

show them their personalities, you get to know them, you get to cater what you do for them as well, and helps you bond on a different level, I think, which is really important. Yes. Steph, what's the makeup of your week look like? What do you do day-to-day? For those that don't know what you do, what do you do? I am a very regular 6 a.m. VGT/athletic, try-to-be-athletic, uh, human. Warrior. Warrior. I battle, but we're getting there. Baby drawer. No, that's not what I meant by warrior. No. I battle, but we get there. It depends on the day sometimes, I'm like, yep, we're on, and some days, you know.

So just like everyone else? Just like everyone else, yep, so I'm a massive 6 a.m. goer. I like training in the mornings, I'm not an arvo, I can't do afternoons, I really battle. The only time I train in the afternoons is normally on a Thursday, about this time, and then I head off to netball training after. But then I shoot off to work, get to work about 7.30ish. What do you do for work? I am a high school teacher at John Paul College in Frankston. Of what? I teach VCE biology and psychology. So that's been, I've been doing that for the last couple of years, that's been a lot of fun.

I like the challenge of VCE. The content's more stimulating, most of the time the kids are more invested because they choose the subject, but I also give them my Coach Carter-esque talk during rollover the year before. Give me a rundown, you run me through one of those speeches, shall we? Oh, okay, so we have, we always try and set up a, with all of the kids in the cohort of that subject, we get them in, we hand them out all the materials, so it's always a binder, it's always a notebook that's split into key study skills, key and study design points, their textbooks, all their codes, all of that.

And I said, "That's my present to you, okay, and that's when you're going to stop liking me." And like some kids pop off and they laugh, especially kids who have had me before. And I said, "This year's probably going to be the hardest year of your life." I said, "If you can get through units one and two of this subject with me, I can guarantee you you will be fine for units three, four." And that's not me being dramatic or me trying to be mean, it's just me trying to set realistic expectations for them and I'm like, "It's going to be really hard.

Like the workload is hard. I'm going to," and then I get giggles because I say this, I said, "I'm going to ride you really, really hard." Because you've got to... I'd probably giggle. Yeah. And like I, not I smirk. I do smirk a little bit. Nah, I can imagine. Because you're like... You lead them down the alley. Yeah, but it's like I couldn't, like it sort of breaks the ice a little bit, but I was like, "I want to ride you really hard and there are going to be days where you're going to want to give up and there are days where you're going to think I genuinely hate her.

But I can also guarantee at the end of the year that if you make it through, you're going to thank me after because I've set you up with all of the skills, with all of the resilience that you're going to need because from next year you're not just battling against the kids in your class or at this school, you're battling against kids all over Victoria who have private tutoring, who have in-house tutors who will get up at five, do a bit of study, go to school, come home and study until nine, you'll be battling those kids.

So I'm just trying to give you a little bit of a leg up if you don't have those things at your disposal because I know where I work, I know the socioeconomic status there. Some of them are battlers and if I can give something to them that's completely free, that's a life skill, maybe that's the extra one or two percent they need to succeed. I'm feeling very inspired. Thanks. And then some kids cry, go to the VCE coordinator and drop out. You're going to get that. Yeah, but the VCE coordinator, the first year I did it, she's like, I don't like having these kids coming to my door crying situation and I was like, I set my expectations.

If that's not for them, that's not for them and I literally say to them, there's the door, if this is not for you, that is okay. You can leave now and find another subject because if you try to battle through semester one, like unit one or unit two and you're failing everything, that's not benefiting anyone. It's only downhill from there. It's only downhill from there and then the following year she goes, I haven't had kids cry yet. I'm like, don't worry. I haven't had that talk yet. I was like, they're there, they're on their way. I'll buy you a box of tissues and she's like, great.

And now they understand that process. I don't purposely make them cry. Some of them are just, some of them are like me. They're, they're sensitive souls. I've met some of your former students. I'd want to make some of them cry too. Thinking of one in particular. Jasper Newsday. He's not going to listen to this. It doesn't matter. Smack talk of all we want. Watch him be like, hey, you guys spoke about me. Yeah, but look how he's fit in the last two weeks. He's done great. Can't get rid of him now. Yeah, I know. It's weird seeing him at six AM every morning.

I'm like, oh. Yeah. No mess. Literally. Steph, mine is through your topic of the day. What are we going to talk about later? I think we're talking about mindset. Yes. I think we've heard a sprinkler of mindset, which will be cool because Tess brought it up the other day when we were talking about it and she wanted to know how I switch on and off in all of my roles. Yeah. Which I'm really, really excited about. I never really talk about it in conversation. I sort of just here and there sometimes with the kids, but when you're talking to kids, it's very, very different.

What else do you want to talk about? Just my weekend warrior things. Baking. I did say to you before this, I think I'm going back to the, I might hit the kitchen soon and bake some new things. I had a cookie before I came. You did? I was like, which cookie did you have? He's like chocolate. I'm like Mitch, they've all got chocolate. Come on. I knew exactly what I was eating. He likes to bait me. Just dangle the fruit. He literally, all the time, he's like, ooh. Which makes you better. It's not just you. Great.

That does make me feel better. You know how you make kids cry? You know, I make people angry by doing that, but it's never malicious reasons. No, we get that. Just hold it out in front and see if they're going to nibble. Sometimes they bite. Sometimes they don't. I always bite. Yeah. You get to know where to poke. Yeah. You're very good at that. You're like, not even poke. Just like tap on the shoulder. Yeah. Gentle. A gentle. That's a very satisfying sound. Georgia, cut it up. Yeah. We can just put that on repeat. I'm going to need that.

Oh, that is nice. Yeah. See, it's good. It's really nice in the ears. I've been playing with the microphones before and I may have, who would have thought, was being a pest. Stop it. Visual sound effects and breathing and all sorts of other things. Sloping the red pool. Yes. Little pick me up. Little pick me up. Little, well, technically my midweek. Sugar free. My hump day. Your hump day. Thursday. Oh, because you go through to... Fourth day of the week. Saturday. Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here Sundays. And Saturdays. And Fridays. You don't get a day off.

You just... I don't know how you do it. Short term pain. Long term gain. 100%. I'm all about it. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about Weekend Warrior first. Weekend Warrior, Steph? Yeah. What's that in good? Oh, she's terrifying. Confirmed. Terrifying. Hopefully, if you ask anyone, I am terrifying. Play netball for YCW. This is my third season with them. Took a few years off and by a few years, I took about a decade off between netball dresses. Had a reco at 15, 15 or 16, I think it was 15, and I just took some time off. Tried to go back.

Wasn't the same. Lost the love for it. And then life got in the way. Uni, work, didn't have time. Wasn't really missing it. Then started playing sort of like that weird indoor netball with the nets. Yep. I can imagine it. Yeah. It was weird because I still don't... People bounce the ball off the nets and I'm just... Yeah, okay. Yeah, that'd be weird. Yeah. I'm like a laser. I'm like a cat with a laser. I'm like a laser. I'm not like a laser. I'm like a cat with a laser and I don't really know where the ball goes.

I can't track it off the net. But then, yeah, I think I had a conversation with you and I think with KP and stuff and I was like, "I think I want to just like attempt going back to netball." I said I'd attempt because like really 10 years off, not really playing any organized netball of any kind, the skill levels are so high now. And like I'm a naturally pretty athletic person, but when you're not using it day in day out and you're going up against people who do it day in day out and they play for multiple teams and I've always had...

We all know this. I sort of self... I have self doubt. I'm just like, I just don't know and I hate failing. Something we're working on. Better at it now. Much better. Much better at it now. Oh, and if I sound congested, everyone, it's because I still have a bit of a cold. Took a couple of Mitch backhands. Yeah. But I think your tactic works because you don't buy too much into it, which is really nice. It's sort of like a drive by. You'll be fine. And I went, "Oh, okay." These two shall pass. Yes. I tried out for YC, would have been 2019.

Joined another cult. I joined another cult. I was originally going to try out for Mornington because Tessie Cooper was a Mornington girl. Yeah. She left us. And now she's left us for the little island. Yeah. And she's killing it though. Love you, Tessie. Love you, Tessie. And then KP caught wind of it, Cherie, one of my girlfriends caught wind of it, Span caught wind of it. And they're like, "Absolutely not. You're trying out for YC." I was like, "Oh." And KP was so adamant. She's like, "You're trying out for YC." And I was like, "Okay, okay, okay."

So I tried out, well before that we did, how many months of pre-season did we even do before trying out? I want to say like four to six. Yeah. I did. Yeah. I approached Mitch really early on. I think I felt longer than what it was. Yeah. And that's because we dove head first into it. Yeah. A hundred percent. So I approached Mitch really early on and sort of, I've always been the person that's like, "I want to, if I'm going to try to do something, I want to go all in and I want to give myself the best possible chance of succeeding."

Because then if I don't succeed, I was like, "Well, I tried everything I could. Like I did everything I needed to and it just wasn't going to happen." Tried out, made the team, which was awesome. Sadly, 2020, the year to forget, didn't get off the ground. So we just had a really- Metaphorically, we did do some jumping. We did. Yeah. We did do some jumping, but the season did not get off the ground. So we just did like a really long pre-season. So we were even more over-prepared. We did so, we did, we had the longest pre-season ever.

I ran, I jumped, did all of it. Had a half season in 2021. It was a good first season back. I was happy with it. Didn't quite finish the season off because of COVID was still lingering. And then had a full season last- Missed the last two or three games? Yeah, I think so. Remember? Yeah. Shit feels like five years ago. We came back, I think, I remember coming back, we had a break. Came back, played Rosebud at Rosebud. And then that Sunday or Monday, we were back in lockdown. Yeah. So, yeah, we didn't finish the season, but overall it was a pretty good season.

I was happy. It was a good first season back, no complaints. And then last season, got a full season in. Yeah, go on. Talk about it. I'm going to make you talk about it anyway. Oh, what? The fact that we were the only team that didn't make the grand final? Well, not bad. Not that, the success, personally. Success was all right. I did okay. Yes. Yeah. I was happy with the way I went about it, but that was more a personal challenge for me. Yes. I'm like, can I still do it? Did all the work that I put in, in here, on the track.

Did that all pay off? And it did, which is really nice. Didn't get the, didn't get obviously the outcome, outcome, but I think the process was a win overall. What did you enjoy about the process and what did you not enjoy about the process? It was just so much jumping. Saw that coming. Yeah. It's just so much jumping. Like a lot of, a lot of jumping. I still have the fear in the back of my head that it's not even my knee blowing out. It's my back blowing out. Like I've had a couple of back issues on and off the last few years since I was maybe 22, 23, you know, I'm 29 now and it's been on and off.

Spring chicken. Good thing. Good genes. Yeah. I've got the mum and Leanne genes. I want to look like this until I'm 60 and then I'm going to lose two feet, wear a puffer jacket and shuffle around with my hands behind my back. Everyone knows. Everyone can picture it. Yeah, I know. Leanne's not there yet though. Oh no, she's not. Spring chicken. She's spring chicken. She's great. Anyone who doesn't know. Mum and Leanne's my mum. She's a little pocket rocket. Everyone knows. What have you enjoyed about, before we, oh no, I want to talk about this later.

Talk about it. I want to talk about your mum later. Okay. We can do that. I was going to like jump ahead, but I'm not done talking about weekend warriors stuff. Oh, weekend warriors. What do you like about the process? It's so methodical. It's so methodical and at the same time, I don't know if it's the way you program it, but sometimes we do exercises and I'm like, my brain doesn't make the connection. I'm like, I don't know how me doing this is going to translate to me holding my position in the circle or me outjumping someone who's six foot one when I'm five foot nine and a half on a good day.

Like I just didn't get that, but just trusting the process and just being like, okay, leave it to the professionals. I don't have to think. I just got to come in. I just got to do it. And it also gives me time just to like shut my mind off and just, just get shit done. Sorry, mom. I'm very, very careful. My language. No, I know. I'm also like, I'm going to get back at it later, but I haven't dropped anything yet. She's got to, she's got to cover the both of us probably, but she's also going to be like, well, you still sick when you recorded this?

Yes, mom. I am still unwell. That's okay. That's okay. We're all fine. It's all Rob's fault. I have this cold because of Rob. We'll also talk about him later. We are definitely talking about him later. Yes. You're right. Hi Rob. What do you want to do with Nepal? Hey. What do you want to do with Nepal? I just want to win grannies, but I just, I love this. I love the game. I've always loved the game. And because of things that was partially outside of my control, partially because who I am back then stopped me from loving it and continuing on that journey.

Like I was never going to be a professional netballer, maybe when I was 13. Every 13 year old thinks they're going to be professional. Like that's just what it is. And then you grow up and you play outside of your school team or you play outside of your squad team. And like I did okay. Like I played eight grade squad, you know, I got up there, we tried out for states, all that kind of stuff. That was awesome. But then the pool of amazing netballers went from like the size of a tennis ball, metaphorically, to the size of a yoga ball.

And very quickly I realized, oh, I am literally, and I spent so many years and it's, I had fantastic coaches, but they told me how good I was. And yes, I was like, I'm not going to be like, oh no, I sucked. I was good. I was a good junior netballer. I was taller than most. I was stronger than most. I was probably more aggressive than most. That hasn't changed. That hasn't changed for me. But I didn't have to work very hard for it. So I had the natural ability. I didn't have the hard work. I didn't have the work ethic.

So when that pool grew, I'm going up against people who probably had the same natural ability as me, but they also had the work ethic that I wasn't ready to commit to yet. So instead of being like, maybe I should work harder, I just got angry. I just got resentful. I just got, why can't I do this? Why are they better than me? As opposed to what can I do to be better than them? And towards the end, had a couple of injuries I had. I tore two ligaments in my right ankle, a severe grade two on two of them in a semi-final.

So I missed the grand final of that one, came back, movement wasn't the same. I didn't have, we didn't have SNC like we do now. We didn't have physios that rehabbed us the way we do now. So came back super clunky. And then the knee went, serious joining in on the conversation, she always gets in the way. And then I did the knee pretty soon after I did a PCL playing school netball. I was out for eight weeks, came back, physio gave the all clear, definitely didn't do all of the rehab I probably should have looking back now and then came back, was doing a skipping drill year 11 PE with Curtis Stone.

I still remember. Sounds like a rockstar. He's amazing. Shares a name with the chef as well, which is really cool. Yeah. I was like, it sounds all familiar. Um, jumped up, landed, knee blew out ACL, PCL, MCL, gone, literally gone. And I was in hysterics, not because I was in pain, because anyone who's done an ACL know that the pain is bad, but it's not awful. You just can't walk on it, which is the most bizarre thing. I was crying because I was just so upset that it was yet another injury. And probably now I

look back at it like the nail in the coffin of netball for me then that was probably the universe's way of saying, you need to step away. This game is not serving you at this moment. How did you come to terms with that or did you come to terms with that? I don't think I ever really did. I think as a 15, 16 year old, you're just off in denial all the time. I was so focused on rehabbing my knee just to have quality of life again that I just, I just, I was genuinely in denial, didn't play.

When I went back post-Reco, did the 12 months, I literally, mum and I signed up for a 5K fun run on the one year anniversary of my reconstruction. So the 6th of December. And on that day we were going to go, it was like a breast cancer fun run and that was my goal to be able to run that fun run. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Sounds fair. Anyway. I was like, I rehabbed really well because I refused to do what I did previously with my other ones. Rehabbed amazingly. I was, my rehab, I was out of the knee brace in six weeks instead of eight.

I was off crutches in three instead of five or whatever the timing was at the time. And I'm like, this is great. I was on school holidays, seven weeks at home, couldn't go anywhere. So I just smashed my rehab, but not once did I attempt to join the school netball team again. I didn't look at it. Didn't look at the sign up. Didn't even attempt to go to the tryouts. Had the netball coach at school saying, hey, and I'm like, and I just went, it's VCE. I can't. And I sort of just closed, I closed that door pretty tightly for a while.

So it wasn't until I started watching netball on TV, like when Suncorp and ANZ netball got big again, sort of in my twenties and I'm like, I do miss it. I miss the competitive nature of it. I miss the athleticism of it. And that was, that was a long couple of years of getting the ball rolling for me to be mentally ready to, to make potentially step back on court again. When did you realise, I want to come back, do you have a moment? I probably did. I probably, I can't actually recall what the moment

was, but I reckon it was in one of the weird indoor netball games that I played and it was like, Steph we need you to go into goal tackle. I was like, okay. And then they popped me in defence and then like, we really need you to run centre and anyone who knows me, not a massive runner, but like uber competitive. So I'm not going to let anyone outrun me purely because I want to beat them. But I think just the feeling of, they're like, we're going to put you here because we need you to plug holes was like, huh, cause I stepped on court and it didn't feel unnatural.

I still know how to catch a ball. I still know how to change direction better now. It was a bit sloppy. It's okay. It's pretty good. I was like, it wasn't too bad. That's pretty good. Yeah. So, and that was the moment where I was like, and week after week, I think it was more like a series of moments as opposed to a singular moment, like week after week after week. I just saw really, really quick improvements and my game got better each week. And I was like, 15 year old Steph, who played netball and lived and breathed it for like six or seven days a week is still in there.

She's a little traumatised, but she's still in there. And I'm like, maybe, like maybe we can look at it. And it was a really long conversation with Rob, really long conversations with mum about it. Rob's dad is always apprehensive cause I've blown a knee. Rob's blown two knees, one playing netball, one playing footy, even though I told him not to play footy, but that's, we'll get there. And mum goes, if you don't try it, you might regret it. And then you'll not be too old, but you have other responsibilities. Like you'll have kids or, you know, life gets really busy.

You don't have the chance. Especially while you have the chance. You should do it. And Rob said the same thing. He said more of, I'm not going to tell you what to do because I can't, but I will support you regardless of your decision. So having both of them in my ear was really nice. And that's when I started having the conversation with you. And I think you kind of went, yeah, you can do it. Like you're kind of like, why can't you do it? So having people who are like, just do it and gets me out of my little hamster wheel that I go through really helped.

Georgia, cue the meme. That's an easy one. Okay. Georgia sends it on a platter for you. Yeah. There's something in that one, Georgia. You're welcome. What made you go down like a teaching pathway? Is that something to do with it? Trying to help other people? Yeah, I think so. I think if I'm like joining the dots or not joining the dots, no, it is. I think when I was sort of 14, 15, spent a lot of time in physio rooms. It was, I had the growing knee pain, ossicote, slightest disease in both my knees. I grew that for me.

Thank you. I grew really quickly, especially between the grades of three and six. I grew 32 centimetres. I went from being 130. You can if you want. I'm still waiting for my second one. I grew from like 130 to like 160 something in the span of three years. I battled a lot of growing pains, a lot of knee pain, joint pain when I was younger. So I spent a lot of room in, a lot of time in physio rooms and I was like, this is cool. I was like, what they do is really, really cool. So that was the original goal.

But if we go back to grade two Steph, always wanted to be a teacher. Didn't know what kind of teacher, but I always wanted to be a teacher. I think it was because I had an amazing, amazing grade one and two teacher, like phenomenal. And I still, Miss O'Rourke was her name and Mrs. Henry. No, not Mrs. Henry. She's terrified of me. Mrs. Murphy. Mrs. Murphy was grade two. Miss O'Rourke was grade one. Like Miss O'Rourke was like, she was young. She was awesome. She was just amazing and Mrs. Murphy had this very nurturing way about her that I was like, it made, I, I felt very comfortable in her presence.

So that derailed for a bit, looked at physio, did my exercise science degree, started looking into pathways of physio, applied for a master's of physio, didn't get in, cue the anxiety attack, that changed the whole course of my thinking. And I think it must have been a week off, like post anxiety attack, which rocked me for a good three, four days. Didn't know it back then. It was an anxiety attack. Looking at it now from the outside, I was like, shit, like I went through some stuff then. And it was really hard because Rob didn't know how to support me.

Cause he's like, I, we've never experienced this before. Mum didn't know how to support me cause she's, you know, they're sort of in that age where they're like anxiety, mental health, a bit confusing, not too sure. And she'll openly admit that she doesn't quite understand it, got a letter in the mail from Monash with early acceptance to a master's of secondary teaching, majoring in biology and psychology. And I'm like, I was like, is this a sign? Every part of me wanted to say a word then that your mother would yell at me for. So motherly and please mute right now.

Did you just say fuck it? Let's go. Yeah, literally. Yeah. Sorry. I literally went, you know, I was like, let's, let's do this shit. And it was the best and probably most grueling 18 months of my life. So I accelerated. So did it in 18 months instead of two years because I wanted to get going. I wanted to get into the system because we all know how many teacher teaching degrees get rolled out at the end of every single year. I was like, if I can just give up one summer, spend six weeks doing this semester to come back to semester one, finish mid-June, graduate, somehow fast track my registration and get into schools.

I am in the top 10% and I already, I've left the other 90% in my dust and I'm just fighting a 10% cohort, which worked out really, really well, met some great friends there. And like, it took me a little bit longer to get there, but I think I needed to go through all the other shit and all the other pathways to consolidate that this is what I'm meant to do. And now that I rock up to school every single day, I see my kids, I was like, this is exactly what I'm meant to do. So no, I don't have any regrets.

All the roundabout way I went about it, I have no regrets at all. Yeah. Nothing. Until you find something wrong and you're like, nah, let's change that. Yeah, look, if something goes wrong, we just, you know, we just troubleshoot it the way we do. Yeah. Adapt, overcome. Adapt, overcome. Exactly. I'll quote you on that next time. Yeah. You're going to pay for that one. Oh no. And I'm just going to cut this out, we are about 30 minutes in, give or take, just mental note. Mitch is just going to put it in a sound bite and every time I complain, he'll be like, adapt and overcome.

Play. Yeah. That sounds great. Steph, remember when you said this? Yes. Yes. How'd you meet Rob? In high school. What school? We're at Fadual College. We have a debate about this. I clearly remember it was in Methods. He says it was chemistry because, for those who are listening, I'm doing quotation marks. We had chemistry. Cool. Oh God. Yeah, I know. You can message him about that later. You just come down a rudder on my ladder. He was at the highest rung, so you know, you can just, he can peak down. Good point. Yeah. So yeah, in Methods, we had so many classes together.

English, we had together PE, Methods, Chem, and then I did Spesh and he had Art. Why are you smiling, Steph? Why are you smiling, Steph? It's just because he used to walk into class and be like, have fun in maths and I'd give him a middle finger. And then I would do English literature and he would do biology. So we spent a lot of time together. So became fast friends really, really quickly. The more we talked, the more I realised and I was like, do I like this point? He was the first guy that sort of paid me any attention, like proper attention and not like the creepy attention, just like in a friendship.

Like just in a friendship way and didn't go from, this is the first guy that's giving me attention. The next step would be having a crush on him and then the next step would probably be getting heartbroken or whatever. Cause you're 17 years old or 16 years old at the time, you know, the progression is there. And, um, yeah, it was the first time sort of, I was like, I think I have a crush. Like I think I genuinely like someone. I think they might genuinely like me back, but it was like, I think three months we went from, this is a guy in my class to basically talking or texting every day.

MSN days? No, not even MSN. He didn't have MSN. He had prepaid. That's why I did my socializing. He had prepaid credit on his phone. I don't think it was a Nokia. We'll have to ask him. We'll have to ask him what his first phone was. I had snake. I don't care what it was. Should I text him? No. No, you can't. I just want to see you. The hell is like the good shit moment? There's the student coming out of the teacher who made the first move, Steph. Was it like a movie date? Like a real teenager type set up?

Like let's find a weird asking people with this, but I'm still going to do it anyway. That's a good question. I think it was both. I think it was quite mutual. I do remember, um, and I don't think mom knows this, so here you go, mom. We never really spoke about it. Oh boy. We like kissed before our first date because where was I, I either he had SIS or I had a leadership meeting or something. Yes. Someone knows I was in leadership. I didn't say I know. You didn't have to. You didn't have Michigan, but this law.

I didn't even give it a look. I was very conservative and the weather had just turned like it was dark. It was stormy, lightning thunder. He walked me to my bus. It was the one of the very few times I ever caught a bus. He also went to my bus and then thunder like crashed and I went, Oh my God, I'm going to die. Cause I hated thunder back then. Like terrified. And he goes, Oh no, we don't want that. Walked me to a bus, hugged me. And then I think we just, some reason just

both went in for the keys at the same time and we're both like, Oh, and I was like, Hey, I think I went up the stairs of the bus and then one of my girlfriends back then, Georgia Doherty, she was like, did he just kiss you? And I was like, I think so. Yeah. I don't know. It was sort of so like that it didn't really register and I was like, Oh my God. Cause that was the, that was the first time I've been kissed. Yes. What's wrong with that? Nothing at all. But I was like, it was so like, Oh, like an Android, something with a shrugged face, like an Android.

So does Android even exist back then? Rob, you're making it up. It would be because I had an iPhone. Really? So it would have been, I think it would have been anything that's not an iPhone when he would classify his Android. I can't remember the first time I had, I just remember having a Nokia with a snake on it. I had a Nokia, but it was color at a color phone on my first phone. It was a Nokia, but it wasn't, it wasn't one of those brick ones that cracked sidewalks. Oh yeah. I had brick. I had a flippy turny brick.

Oh yeah. Mine like flipped around. What? Yeah. So I could like flip it up and then just like spin it the other way and put it back down. Like a hip top? No, no. So that's like a slide. Like a, the screen or like a sidekick type situation. Yeah. Yeah. Like the American. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. They're cool. I liked them. I have one of them. I want them for a while. Oh, you fancy. That's the most vivid memory I have. That's so random. Fancy. Yeah. And then a couple of days after my birthday. Chocolate and flowers type present.

Oh God. No. Didn't come to my birthday party. Oh no. Cause he had, it was either a cricket presentation or stay home and look after his siblings cause he's the oldest of three boys. So I was like, now get it back then fuming. I'm invited for my birthday party. Literally. We had it at the restaurant too. Of course you did. Didn't own it at the time, but mum worked there. So we had it there. It was great. Oh no, we must have owned it. 17. Potentially owned it. If not, it was a year before. Um, and then two days later, walked me to my bus goes, I have a question to ask you.

And I was like, yeah, he goes, will you be my girlfriend? Lame. The rest is history. Oh, here we go. Well it ended up. I know. I know. I know. Worked out. It worked out pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. That's the story of, that's the very short story of Rob and Steph. That's a pretty good story. It's pretty nice. Yeah. It was pretty nice. Looking back now, what did you enjoy about Rob's company? He was just so mellow. He's so calm and he's so go with the flow, which. Don't give me that look.

Don't give me that look. Is very opposite of me. We have nicknames. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. We have nicknames in our house and mine is stressy bessy and Rob's is loosey goosey, which is his parents worked that into their speech at the wedding. I did hear that. Yeah. I did. Um, wedding videos back the other day, Saturday night, just on the couch, crying, tears of happiness, tears of happiness, everyone, just, just to, just to preface that, I still like my husband. I swear. Promise. I think. Yeah. It was just his calming presence.

Cause I'm such a heightened person. I think even from a young age, didn't notice it back then. It's all come through sort of now and understanding mental health more and mindset more and all that. And it was so peaceful to be around. And I never felt that, Oh my God, I'm so in love with him and he makes my heart race and he X, Y, and Z, I'm sure during the early days it was just exciting to have like a boyfriend, but it very quickly settled into he's my calm space. He's my safe space. Um, and he's my peace.

And I think for someone with my personality, I really needed that. I didn't need someone who heightened me more and stressed me out more with their mood swings or their up and downs or their lack of communication. I didn't need that. He was always there. He was always very consistent. Um, and he was just, he was peaceful and I really, I really needed that peace. Don't know why. I'm like maybe because the life was hectic for me, VCE sort of, you know, the NGs of school was a bit shit to be honest. It was a bit hectic and to know that he was always there was really nice and he got along with my parents, which was a bonus.

Yeah. Leanne, she's pretty tough. I know. She's a hard woman. She's a drillmaster. Love you mom. I'm scared of her. I'm actually, I'm still scared of her. Yeah. She did a pretty nice jab at you the other few weeks ago. Yeah. What was it? Oh yeah. You said something about training and mom turns around to me. She goes, you train? Yeah. Straight up. Yeah. Hostile behavior. And then she just throws these barbs my way and I just don't know how to act. Yeah. And then she like, normally I'm just yelling swear at someone, but I can't do that.

She's like backhands. You're the arm. When I'm not looking either, like she just works for the perfect moment for me to turn my head and then I just get a clip across the ears. Yeah. She's probably the only person that I'm not scared of her at all. I think maybe when I was younger, you're just sort of scared of your parents when you're a little, but now she'll say something, try to be stern about it and I just stare at her. Like just did I stare at her? And then she just starts smoking. I'm like, ah, gotcha.

Yeah. I did that to my parents. Yeah. It doesn't really work. Yeah. Been that way a long time. Yeah. She's not that scary to me. Yeah. We were up at the farm in Thornton. So his family owns a cattle farm. Is it a cattle farm? It's a farm of some kind. I think it's a cattle farm. I think it's, I'm pretty sure it's a cattle farm in Thornton, so out Yilden way. And that was the first place we went to on holiday together as a couple. We must have been 19 or something. Just went up to the farm.

It's so peaceful. There's no reception. There's only wifi. So if you didn't have iMessage, you're not hearing from us for a few days. So we were up there. The weather was terrible. Seeing a general trend here. Yeah. The weather. Yeah. Life moments happen in shit weather. Yeah. The weather was horrific. It was raining on and off all day. And we went in the morning, we went to Alexandra, then we went into Yay. We sort of, you know, basically ate all the pies in all the country towns. Cause that's what you do in country towns. Cause they are delicious.

Delicious. They know how to make a good pie. And he was stressed about this weather all day. And I was like, are you okay? What's wrong? He's like, yeah, it's fine. It's all good. It's all good. I was like, okay. Just I was like, sure. Um, and we were just chilling and he goes, let's jump in the Ute. Let's go for a, like, let's go bush bashing, which is basically, I think he's way of saying it. Let's just drive through the paddocks. Um, he goes, let's like, well, the sun, like while the weather is great and we're not going to bog the Ute, let's go for a drive.

I was like, okay. Literally just had jeans on. Hope you weren't wearing this power suit. I was not wearing this power suit. Had jeans on. I had like, I think just like basically work boots and a flanny on and my hair was greasy. It was up in the top knot. I was like, I was like, I'm on the farm. Who cares? Whatever. No one's gonna see me. Judgmental sheep and judgmental cows literally glared at me, but I was like, whatever. Pulled up this open paddock, rain stopped, sun came out for a quick second and he's like, let's take a photo.

I was like, okay. I'm like, I'll set the phone up for like a timer. He's like, no, no, just check on video and then we can just pause the video and then screenshot it. I was like, okay. Didn't, didn't think anything of it. Then he, he brought the Ute with him because we're listening to music because the Ute doesn't have, it's a, it's like an old Ute. Then he starts putting on our song, puts on our song, which is in case you didn't know, that young. But I also want to give it a listen. I still can't listen to it without tearing up.

And it was, I was like, why are you sending the moon? Because he said to me six months ago, he's like, I'm probably not going to propose for a couple of years. Let's, I'm going to be honest with you. Let's build a house first. And after waiting like nine years, you're like, whatever. Just nine years in the making, by the way, guys, I was like, okay, cool. And then he's like, took a photo, you know, all posing, very awkward. And then he goes, Steph, I have a question for you. Sounds familiar. Sounds familiar. Come on, Rob.

Get a new line. Maybe that's just his line. And I turned around and he bless him, got down on one knee. That's tough. That's tough. That would have been tough. That would have been tough. Not anymore. Yep. Don't remember a single word he said, honestly, blacked out. Couldn't hear through my tears ended with, will you marry me? I'm glad you remember that part. Yep. Obviously said yes. We kissed, we hugged, we cried. We have a really great video of the moment with the music. We got a really great photo of it. It's a great little flash of the ring to the camera there, too.

You just... Yep. Yep. He did a good job. He went ring shopping with my mum. Of course he did. They went on two dates together. Of course they did. To the city. I was like, ugh. These two, honestly. And that was that. That was the best day ever, went back to work for a week, and then we flew out to Port Douglas to celebrate Mum's 50th. Yeah. Sorry for revealing my mum's age, but let's be honest, she's a spread chicken. No one knows anyway. Yeah. You can't tell. She looks about 35. Age is a construct. Correct.

So I'm 21 again. I'm pretty happy with my age. Actually, I don't think... I mean, my knees tell me I'm 40, my back tells me I'm 20, at least 28. Oh, you're 40. 28. How old are you? 26? Yeah. Oh, dear. My back's pretty good. It's the knees that are a little shot. It's your knees. Yeah, that's okay. We'll work it on it. They're all right. Get the period painkillers. Get an apogeezy. Get an apogeezy, sort them out. There you go. Not a problem. But I think I'm pretty happy with where I am. I think life is getting better for me as I progress through, which is nice.

What's next? What's next? Speaking of progression. Holiday? Holiday. Go to Japan. Yeah. Thank you. I was like, "I don't know what is next." Yes. What does he want me to say? Me, literally. I'm like, "I have netball training soon." I know. I know. I get to see... I know how this works. Which knows me very well. I know how this works. Yeah. Well, he's not just my coach. We are quite good friends. I walk the dog and guide the elephant down the path. Yeah. Am I the elephant or the dog? Both. Different metaphors. Different textbooks. Nice.

Different physiosioms. Okay, sure. That's a big word. Physims. Yeah. What are you most excited about? We go to Japan. We go on our honeymoon. We fly out April for 10 days, which will be amazing. It's my first international holiday without my parents. And it's our first holiday since 2019, like COVID life things. So that will be unreal. I'm really, really excited about that. What are you most excited for? The food. Yeah. What are you most excited for about the food? The fresh sushi? Yeah. Like I keep hearing that sushi is unreal in Japan no matter where you go.

And like I'm a massive foodie. So I've eaten some good food in my time. My mom's a chef. So, you know, good food comes with the... I had chicken fried rice for breakfast yesterday. So... Did she make it? Yeah. So good. She made my lunch yesterday. So good. She made me a pad satay that I shared with a friend at work. So good. Hi, Jackie Ross. You better listen to this or I'm going to egg your desk. Whoa. She's also... Hostile. She's a boss at work. She's an eggy boss. How's that going to go for you?

Fine. Okay. She'll probably be like on a sermon or she'll retaliate and like rotten egg me back. It's fine. That's fine. Yeah. I've eaten some good food in my time, but Rob's been before. He went as part of his... You need to agree? Study. Yeah. I listen. I pay attention. Yeah, I know. I know you do. Try to. And he's like the sushi is outstanding. What are the pancakes called? The what? The Japanese pancakes. Apparently they're delicious too. I don't like them personally, but I just, I think that'd be different over there obviously. Yeah. I love Okonomiyaki.

So Osaka, which is where we land, they're known for their Okonomiyaki and Takayaki, which is the octopus balls. They're not actually octopus balls. Just look it up people. I'm not going to try to explain it. Maybe don't look that up. Look up Takayaki. Don't look up octopus balls. Takayaki. T-A-K-O-Y-A-K-I. That can't be taught me that. I think. So I'm keen for that, but I'm actually really, I love Udon noodles. It's my favorite. Yeah, I think that's what I'd be, or I will be most excited for. Yeah. Udon noodles is elite in my opinion. I love noodles so much.

Almost as much as I love dumplings. It's big. Love dumplings. Made you dumplings. Did make me dumplings and they were delicious. Yep. You also had dumplings for lunch. I did, I Uber Eats dumplings for lunch. I had a craving. Okay. I was like. How will your mom feel about that? She'll probably be like, yeah, do it. Oh, damn it. Yeah. No. She'd straight up be like, yeah, do it. Why not? She literally goes, yeah, why not? Um, yeah. I'm excited for the Udon. It's called, the place is called Shin Udon in, I want to say, oh, it's either in Shibuya or Shinjuku.

I can imagine you have a very impressive travel plan. Um, sort of, but also not really, really. I wouldn't have picked that. I have a Google doc. There is, there's a working Google doc. That's okay. There is a whiteboard. No, that's okay. I'm a whiteboard. I appreciate that. The whiteboards literally just like, where are we flying to in order? Um, check in date, check out date, just so we can book hotels, what the hotel is, how much it costs and whether we've paid it or when the payments coming out. Just so we know. Yeah. So the Google doc sort of just basically that in digital form and then the main sites we want to see.

So like an app called, it's called Wonderlog. Okay. Game changer. Is that the one you were on Instagram that you showed? Yeah. I've been doing my whole trip on it. So easy. You put it in places and locations. Oh, that's cool. It's so good. Yeah. Mitch is going to America and leaving us for three, four months towards the end of the year. Yeah. I haven't talked about that yet. Where am I going to? Maybe I'll, maybe I'll podcast you next time. Podcast you? Nah, I've got done recently. Well, I mean recently. I got done like 20, start 2021.

I like your one. I don't remember what I talked about on it. Anyway. Not about me. Back to you. Pee later enough for my shit. Um, yeah. So we just sort of got Osaka. We know what to hit these main attractions. Yep. And then we did the same for Kyoto, Hiroshima and Tokyo. And then like what food that town is known for and sort of left the rest quite open because even though I love a detailed list, I think when you're traveling, you can't have too much of a detail. Cause I'm like, what if I wake up in the morning and I have a migraine, there goes half a day or a day.

I love how that's the thing you think about. I know. I know. I know. Yeah. You know, we're both migraine sufferers. I'm like, what if I wake up and I'm just, my energy levels are a bit low, all the weather's not great. Then it, then it allows us to be like, okay, we'll do this this day and then we'll do that the other day. When I have it so structured, my type A OCD brain will be like, but we scheduled round one stadium for Tuesday. We have to go on a Tuesday. Even though we don't have to, my brain just does that.

And it takes me a while to be like, fine, we'll go on the Wednesday instead. Yeah. I'm a over traveler under preparer. I am a like four months on my trip is just so much time to do whatever the goddamn hell I want. Yeah. I think that's, I think, I think that's what's best for that we want to do is just to go to another country, have no responsibilities and just have fun because life is so hectic all the time that I'm like, I just want to sort of be like, okay, these are the attractions. I know I want to hit these.

I don't care what order I do them in, but I know I want to do them. Yeah. You got to find little things over there anyway. A hundred percent. Yeah. I don't, uh, my, I think my biggest scare in life is like going on a holiday for like five days. Yeah. Nah. Trying to do like 10 days worth of stuff. I can't do it. But it's not a holiday. It's exhausting. You're probably out from, you know, really early to really light. And first of all, did you really remember anything you did and was it actually fun?

You probably come back exhausted and not recharge. Like I want to come back tired because traveling is tiring, but I'm also going to come back with all of these amazing memories that I made with my husband, which is cool. What's Rob most excited for? The food. Yeah. And I think he's just excited to take me to a place that he really, really loves. Yeah. Fucking loves Japan. Yeah. This is just a podcast of us apologize to my mom. Seriously. I'm scared. What's going to happen? Well, she, she drops a couple of F bombs every once in a while in the kitchen revealing secrets.

She used to like never swear ever, but I sometimes say stuff and I didn't realize I say it, which is one of bad thing. Anyway, but then I get clipped across the years. I'm like, Oh, what did I say? She said it. And I was like, Oh yeah, I think I didn't say that. Fair enough. But, uh, warranted, for sure. I deserve a clip every now and then so I'm okay with it. Sorry mom. Um, something else I wanted to talk about Japan. What order are you doing in action? We fly into Osaka. Yeah. Then we'll do Kyoto, Hiroshima, finish off in Tokyo cause we fly out of Tokyo in Narita.

So we, ideally we were going to fly into Tokyo and then fly out of Tokyo, but this actually way makes way more sense. We'll fly in Osaka, we'll start in Osaka, we'll work our way through and then we'll spend four days in Tokyo. That's what I'm really excited about because Tokyo just looks unreal. Yeah. I liked the idea of big cities cause there's so many little things in the big cities. Yeah. Like you, of course, you're going to do the basic bitch, sorry Leanne, I had to pause then. Yeah, you did. I didn't want to say like all the basic bitch city stuff, but then you get the little extra stuff.

You get the little ways, you get the little, you know, teeny tiny food carts and yeah, I hope you don't get sick. I think Tokyo is pretty good for that. I think Tokyo is pretty good for that. Oh no, you've said it. I know. Watch me come. Touch wood. Oh boy. We're touching wood, nothing, you can hear it all. Yeah. Those heads, those tables. If you're watching, it makes more sense. Yes. A hundred percent. Cool. Yeah. When do you go back? How long have you gone for? We fly, we fly out the 22nd, we land the 23rd, I go back to work the 24th.

Yeah, cause you're a psycho. No, but I have PD day on the Monday and then it's Anzac day, the Tuesday. So I don't go back to teach until the Wednesday and it's only a two hour time difference. That's okay then. I'm like, whatever. I'll allow it. I'm like whatever. I am going to diverge to some of the questions from the family because we are about give or take like 50 something minutes in. Yeah. We talk a lot, you and I. We let you simmer. So I'm not really sure how accurate that timer is. I think it says 58, but I'm pretty sure it's like 54.

Yeah. I think we simmered for about five minutes. Yeah. Man. Cause I forgot about three things with the camera. This is shorter. You sat down about four times. Oh, I did. I did. Question number one. How do you, I want your opinions, options, first thing that comes to mind and then you can go into it. Okay. This is from Lachlan. Okay. Three C's cooking, community, and I'll throw in the third one after cooking, I find is such an amazingly simple way to bring people together. Whether you love food or not, you have to eat, you have to eat for survival.

And for some people it might not be, they might not be phased by what they eat, but I think they'll get a lot of just being around a dinner table or a banquet table surrounded by people talking about their life stories and talk about, even talk about their day or where they've come from and you know what they're hoping to achieve, all that kind of stuff, which then links into community. I think a life without a close knit community or a community to fall back on is an extremely lonely life, I think, which is what I was missing for a really long time and I didn't realise it.

Like I had friends, don't get me wrong, I have, I had friends and I had many friends, not that I cared. I wasn't like, I have 1500 friends, no one cares. I probably have before here, my best friend, Nicola, Rob, and my four bridesmaids. So like six, I can count them on two hands with, with change. Thank you. I was worried there for a little bit, I was like, oh, that's clearly two. Um, I, and, but I felt lonely because we were all so busy that I didn't really see them. We might catch up twice a year, one to celebrate everyone's birthdays in one hit.

And then we always make an effort at Christmas because Christmas meant a lot to all of us. But in between that, I spent a lot of time on my own. I was studying, Rob was studying, mum was working, dad was working and playing golf. My man. Yeah, he's, he's a pretty good golfer. So I felt this sense of emptiness and loneliness that I only recognise now because I'm part of a community. So when I joined here in mid 2018 and I started coming here every day and seeing the same people every day, like for the last few years, I see Reese nearly every single morning.

Horrifying. If that doesn't wake you up. On multiple reasons. Love you. Yeah. Just some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth. You're like, oh, I'm awake now. Yeah. Um, like seeing Reese every morning or seeing Lockie every morning when he was coaching, seeing you every morning and then slowly see other people trickle in and I'm starting my day surrounded by people makes life so much easier. Just texted me today, actually. I actually saw him. He trained this morning. Oh, did he? He actually trained this morning. He sent me a gift and I was like, hey girl.

He won't come back for like another four days though, because he will be solo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, as you were. That's fine. Um, yeah. Just in the importance of community for yourself and your community doesn't have to be your best friends. Yeah. Like a group of people who are like minded, have similar goals or just there just to hang out and watch each other achieve cool things is awesome because then you can step away and when you go hang out with your friends, like, okay, this is my friend time. So I don't think friendship and community have to be the same thing, but if you can find some friendships in that community, you're kicking goals.

Yep. Who's your favorite Veritas mugel? My mom. Damn it. Who's your top three who is not related to, Oh, gee whiz. This is a midge question. Including coaches or not including coaches? Nah. Not including coaches? Nah. Okay. Top three. Reese for sure. Just because even from the very beginning he was so welcoming and he didn't cause I was like, I looked at him and I'm like, and I sort of automatically went, I don't think this gym is for me. Too many people are scared of Reese. It's so terrifying. I was terrified because he's this like jacked, tanned dude with heaps of tats.

Oh don't start this, go straight to his head. More than it already has. Oh no. He loves it. He needs it too actually. Yeah. So Reese, because he just made me feel so comfortable from the very first moment, the complete opposite of what my perception of him was to walking. I was like, I don't think I, I don't like, I can lift things, but I don't think I can lift things. I think, you know, so Reese and probably the Rolly sisters, both of them. Who's your favorite Rolly? I don't have one. No, no. Come on. No.

You thought about it though. I want to go Mae Tess just because Mae M comes before T alphabetically. Yeah. Okay. I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Got out of that one. Your third C before, I got sidetracked cause I got excited, but your third C is connection. What do you think about connection? Cause it kind of dies in the rest of them. Which is why I left it to last. This is such a lucky question. Yeah. It makes me think really hard. Yeah. It does. You get used to them after a while. Trust me. Will my brain stop hurting?

No. Okay. Great. Will you have days where you want to answer with one word? Yes. Connection is essential to everyone's makeup of being a human being. I don't think you can live a fully fulfilled life without some form of connection and not every single one has to be deep and meaningful and I love you and you're the best thing that's ever happened to me. I'm so glad you walked into my life. Some of them will be that and some of them will, you'll connect on a level that's like, I'm glad I met you. I'm glad I connected with you because you taught me X, Y, and Z, but now it's time to disconnect.

That's my personal opinion because I know I've done that, met people, they've taught me things and then discovered that maybe they are not what I need and I disconnect from them, but that journey between me and that person still makes up who I am now. I think disconnection is just as important as connection because we can't stay connected with every single person we've ever met, spoke to or come across in our lives. It would be impossible. Good answer. Thank you. Lucky would have liked that one. You made me happy. You're welcome Lucky. More questions from the family.

I do want to remember these just quietly. Yeah, wow. I'm impressed. Favourite cookie and second question, how are your cookies so delicious? I'll answer the second one first. My cookies are so delicious because they're made with love and care and there are very specific signs. When people ask me that, I had a girlfriend, sorry to sidebar, I had a girlfriend, we were at an engagement party and she's like, Steph, how are your cookies? They look like Pinterest, Instagram cookies. I'm not like, they look pretty good. They look exceptional. They look delicious and they taste delicious too.

It took me a few, a couple of years to, not all longer than that now, what are we, 2023? Maybe nearly four years to perfect a recipe and she's like, I try to make them and they just run flat. She's like, it tasted good, but it was like a pancake and it's all down to the science of it. I was like, you need to do this. You need to do this. Have you tried this? Like what down to basically what flour are you using? How cold is your butter? What kind of butter are you using? All that kind of stuff.

And she's like, I did not like out of all of the, she was like, out of all the things that I could have thought about to fix it, none of those were on my, on my list. So like I use fridge cold butter, like I will literally cube them. So cube them. I'll weigh them out. I'll bag them and I'll put them in the fridge or freezer until they are rock solid, like proper rock solid. And that's what gives them that sort of like, like chunky sort of just falling apart texture because if your cookie,

if your butter is already soft and then it goes into a hot oven, it's not, it doesn't have the structural integrity to hold up the shape and it will just do that spread. Flucky. It's, it's, yeah, it's a flat cookie. It's a flat cookie. I made that up. Very well done. Business name in that somewhere. Yeah. We're changing guys. We're going from baked with Seth or baking with Seth to flookies. Yeah, but yours aren't flookies. Yours are like chunky. Mine are chunky. So they're chookies. They're chookies. That's weird. Yeah. I hate it. Yeah. Flookies are better.

Yeah. Flookies are better. Maybe I'll make flat cookies. Maybe you can make flat cookies. Maybe that's gonna be your thing. Yeah. Poorly done chunky cookies. But to go back to your first question, which is, which is, which one is my favorite cookie? It changes honestly, but the two that I love the look of the most is the rocky road purely because of the marshmallows and they sort of melt and ooze and crystallize a little bit when they hit the pan and the bueno cookie, which is what you had because we finish it off with a half a bueno bar like wedged in their yours inhabit because the bueno bars shattered.

So I'm like, I don't think Mitchell care. Not at all. Yeah. So they're my two favorites, but the most popular one, which is the most unsuspecting one is the birthday cake cookie. I was going to say that actually. Which is, it's just a really sweet, just think of really crappy birthday cake, like vanilla childhood birthday cake, vanilla before you got fancy taste. That's what it tastes like. It was just heaps of sprinkles in a cookie. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. It's everyone's like, Oh, they don't get it. And then they eat it. And they're like, Oh my God.

It's unsuspecting. It's delicious. Yeah. She's a little, you know, she's a little pocket rocket on. I don't know where you come with that. Yeah. Me neither. I was like, what's this? Yeah. Yeah. Sharky. Uh, have a coach. You must say me. Yeah. Well, it's obviously, you know, what is your favorite thing about each coach? Okay. That was the actual question with you. It's your direction and your, sometimes I do exercises and I know it feels wrong, but I don't know how to fix it. And some coaches and none of that, not anyone here, but previously they'll be like, you need to do this, this, this, this, this, and this to fix it.

And my brain just goes, what? Whereas today we were doing the half a split stance power off and Mitch was literally said to me, you need to shift your weight a little bit more over your front leg. So I did that. And then move your back leg closer to cues. Really simple. Nailed them. I made that adjustment for the second time that I did it. We didn't need to adjust it again. So your ability to break things down technique wise, astounds me still. Yes. It still blows my mind. And I'm not here to pump your tires.

I will pump your tires anytime, but, but that's the honest truth. And your programming, which always does like a sneaky hard dense program. He does like the first sort of like block, block and a half. You're like, geez, this is fun. You're like, you're like lifting heavy things. The movements are kind of cool. And then the backend just absolutely ruins you and you're like, yeah, it's sneaky spices. You get to the end and you're just cooked and you're like, I was not anticipating this for the first block and a half. Ask Ollie Lapwood tomorrow, how he feels about his finishes because he's a thick boy now.

He was battling. Yeah. I like his arms. He thought he was done. I was like, yeah, we're in my house. You got to scroll all the way through man, like you always, you always put in pistol squats for me, which is, yeah, and I know I'm getting better at them. Jazz is just so nurturing. She's so softly spoken. She's so softly spoken. And sometimes when it's 6am on a Thursday morning and I'm at my most fragile, just for her to be like, how are you going? She does the proper check in, which is not to stereotype, but I think people would also agree with me.

Quite a female thing to do. Like a, how are you going? How's your week? What are your mood? Like what's your mood like? Do you need anything? Yeah. She's very, very good at that. And it's like just a warm hug in the mornings that she brings Harvey. And that's just like a little bonus. Harvey is Jazz's dog. And I don't like small dogs normally, but he's pretty freaking cute. He's pretty cute. He's pretty cute. Yeah. Tyler, sometimes I struggle to hit a heavy lift. You tell me, just lift it. But Tyler does the proper rev up.

Like he does the loud claps. He does like the, come on, a bit of the Hamilton comes out. Yeah. A little bit, a little bit of the proper country boy comes out. And sometimes you just need that like oomph to get you over the line. And that's what he provides. And I think that's brilliant. And it always, you three do all those things. Your timing is always right for it. Like sometimes you'll be a bit harder on me, like just lift it. And sometimes you'll be like, that's cool. We'll just leave it. Sometimes I say, Steph, stop being a little coward.

He will literally say that. And sometimes he'll be like, it's not malicious. No, it's not at all. And you're very good at judging my mood, like you can gauge my mood really well. Sometimes I come in and Mitch is like, I need to be a bit more gentle today. I need a bit just to, to like, sort of nurture her a little bit. And some days he's like, okay, now you're just being silly, like lock up your ass and get going. And I'm like, oh, okay. If I have to. Yeah. No, you're right. I don't want to.

Yeah. But yeah. And I don't really, I just train with Locky these days now. So yeah. Washed up as a coach. We love you. It's not a bad thing. No, it's not. He's found other avenues that evolution. Yeah, a hundred percent. You got to do you and what fits for you and what fits for the business. Greg had the best neural warmup games ever. Oh my God. Never knew what to expect. Yeah. Never knew what to expect. But when we did all those like neural games, like the competitive athlete in me goes, yes. I was like, yes.

And I'm like, I'm here. It's 6am. And I want to win. Yes. I am extremely competitive. Excellent. Yeah. What else? What else we had? Cam over the years. I'm just trying to think who's been here. Cam was awesome. I actually really missed him when he left. He's a bit like you and a bit like Tyler. He's both of you together in one person. There's one, I always remember when I used this and I spoke about this moment to someone in the gym, I think last week or the week before. We were doing trap bar jumps and I just wasn't getting it.

Like my timing was out and all my joints were not moving and he literally gives me, he's like put the trap bar down, step out of the trap bar, gives me a glass of water and he's like jump with the glass of water, but don't let any water spill out. His little water trick. And I was like, you can imagine how the first time went. Yeah. Yeah. Head's go refill the water glass. And then he's like, okay. So now, and he stepped it out and it's about moving with the water glass as opposed to try to hold it so tightly, just moving the body that the force just sort of shoots the water out.

So we tried it, we tried it, we tried it and then we nailed it. And I was jumping up and down with this nearly full glass of water and the water would just move and like not a single drop was spilled. He goes, what you did there, do it with the trap bar. And that was such an incredible coaching moment for me that I was like, that was insane. I was like, I don't know how it's like, you're how we got here, but I don't know how we got here, but we got here and I appreciate it.

I like it. I think. Yeah. I was like, this now makes sense. I think. Yeah. What else have you had over the years? Other jazz? Jazz Birch. We were just friends. Yeah. Social community. Yeah. So I think we just like socially chilled together and had the banter. That was the bond was really, really nice. And we, I played indoor netball with her. She was on the, got me back into the weed, indoor netball. So thanks jazz. Yeah. We had indoor netball. That's why I had to describe it. Yeah. It's a bit odd. Ah, Simon. Oh Simon.

He's still current coach. He's still a current coach. I don't, I don't think I had that many sessions with Simon, but he was just, he's very level headed. Always. When you come to him with a problem and he's, you can see he is in problem solving mode, but he will speak it out loud. He's like, okay, so this isn't working. Let's try this and then let's see how this feels and if that doesn't feel right, we'll reassess from there. So it was very, which I love, very methodical and you can see every single step happening and you can see him processing it as it goes, which is really cool.

So you all bring something different to the table. I think that's all. Does anyone? My friend, no, but I did have that friend that's asked the question, but I think that's part of the mindset thing. We're about to go down to that path right now actually. Yeah, cool. Awesome. I don't remember the question. I'm just having a look at it now. How about you ask yourself the question or read the question out loud, because I can't see it. My friend from work, Hayden. Hi, Hayden. Is this Bearded Hayden? Hey. Is this Bearded Hayden? No. No. He's got Scrath.

Other school. Other school. No, I haven't. Your work boyfriend. Oh, Daniel. Daniel Cain. Yes. Yeah, that was my other boyfriend. Yeah. Hayden at work, he's in the midst of working to get back into fitness and all that kind of stuff. And we bond over it quite a bit. He asked, "How do I go balancing work and training and then transition from motivation to discipline?" That was his question. That's a great question. That's a very good question. Let's start with that, Steph. How do I balance work and training? I am a creature of habit and for

the last four years, ever since I started coming here and started working full-time as a teacher, I have worked to create this habit that is so ingrained in me that I don't know how to step out of it. However, in the last couple of years, it's really based on my priorities at the time and my priorities change week to week. Sometimes training is my priority because I know I have the time to dedicate to training. Sometimes I dedicate or I prioritise time at home with Rob or I have family things going on and I need to dedicate time to them and training has to take a backseat or work has to take a backseat.

Work will still be there regardless of whether I'm there or not. The world isn't going to end and the kids will be okay and my glutes aren't going anywhere. That's not how I thought you were going to finish that. I'm appreciative of that. That's a vertice thing, that. That is a vertice thing. British by bitch. Oh gosh. Rebrand. Rebrand. Pretty glop. Rule 13. So the balance is always tricky. Do I get the balance right every single day or every single week? Absolutely not. What do you think is the biggest error people try, trying to start that?

They try to go all in. I'm going to work out five days a week, I'm going to get up at five o'clock every day, I'm going to go work out, then I'm going to go to work, I'm going to drink my greens, I'm going to eat my rabbit food and I'm going to do it every single day, I'm not going to miss a day. You can't. No. You cannot because if you are doing that, you are setting yourself up to fail and once you fail you go what's the point, it's too hard, I can't do it and then that cycle starts.

I liken it to snakes and ladders. Yeah. A little bit up and then you're down. And it's the metaphor of climbing the ladder which is quite linear versus falling down the snake which who knows where you're going to end up. You honestly don't know where you're going to end up but I think for people who are sort of in that wheelhouse or they want to start or they want to start to have some consistency for, you know, their work life which is their professional life and they're setting up for their career and then their training life or their nutrition, just pick something small that they can do consistently three times a week for three weeks.

And once you've nailed that, then you put something on top of that. It's like building, it's like Lego. Start with the foundation, when your foundation is awesome, you can then move on but if your foundation is shit, everything's going to come crumbling down whether it be in three weeks, three months, a year, three years, it's going to come down and the longer you let it go on, the harder it's going to fall. What are your minimums to quote Cam? My minimums right now for me, my medication, my medication, nutrition, massively which goes side by side

with my medication, for me movement, I feel really sluggish if I don't move and whether that might be here in the gym, lifting, it could be a session in the normal text and going for a walk, it could be going for a walk at home with Rob afterwards. I need to get some movement in to my day, every day and reading. I need to read every day and that's a directive from my naturopath Carla who, best woman ever, I came to her with a problem and I was like I can't stop my mind from racing. I can't stop looking at the time.

I could be at home on a Sunday, it could be 1pm, I've meal prepped, the house is clean, I've packed my bags, things are good, you're probably thinking this is great, you've got like the whole afternoon and evening. Me, it's one o'clock now which means I have nine hours before I have to be asleep. It's six hours until I have to make dinner. There is no reason for that, we don't know why my brain does that but it does but ever since I started reading a lot more, like I've always read but ever since I've made it a priority and a minimum, I no longer do that.

I don't go, oh, it's 7.30, I probably should get ready for bed. Now I go, oh cool, seven o'clock and then I just go back to my book and that minimum has removed a massive stressor in my life which is time watching. How do you curate, obviously you're someone who ebbs and flows out of different states, how do you curate yourself back on the path of what you need in that moment? I strip everything back and just uncomplicate things as much as I can. Life is complicated, throw in weekend worrying stuff, work in, work stuff, training life, married life, restaurant manager stuff, things get very complicated.

I sort of strip things back and be like what can wait two weeks and my world will continue to turn. I have to go to work, I have VCE students, they need me and you need money, money makes things go round, right? I have to go to work. We don't do things for money, we still goddamn need it. But you still need it, right? It's a vicious cycle. Anyone who says they're not motivated by money is lying. Correct. Sorry. You are motivated, like I will work to make money so I can live the life I want to live.

When I die, my money's not coming with me, so what's the point? I strip things back to what is crucial for me at this moment. I need to go to work, because like I said, we need money, I have responsibilities still, and me neglecting them will only make me feel worse, I know that. I will still go to the restaurant because my parents need me. And I'm not, out of all the people I can let down, my parents is not one of them, cannot, will refuse to unless I am like deathly ill, I will be there when they need me.

Training was not going to end if I don't train for a couple of weeks. We just saw that not that long ago. Four went training for I think two and a half weeks. Social life, cut that. Not because I don't love my friends, but having a social life drains my battery really quickly. So I just sort of went into my shell a little bit, just kept to myself, stayed at home, went to work, came home, read books, gave myself that chance to sit with my feelings, to journal, to cry, to ruminate. And then at the end of that two weeks, I went, you need to start living again.

You need to do the things that make your life feel fulfilled. So your recalibration is different for everyone. Sometimes it takes two weeks. Sometimes it takes four. And sometimes it takes longer than that. And I think that's okay. What do you find yourself needing the most? Sleep. Just downtime, currently with the way my life is, the only day I get home before five o'clock or five 30 is Wednesday. Monday, I'm here, I'm at work, and then I've got prizes and netball games. Tuesday, I'm at the restaurant until eight. Thursday, I'm at netball till eight. Friday, I'm at the restaurant.

Saturday night, I'm at the restaurant. So I only have Sunday. At the moment, Sunday's my either get shit done day or get the things that are necessities around the house done and the rest of it can wait. The world's not going to end if my laundry basket isn't folded and put away. She'll be fine. But it's not okay if I don't have food in the fridge. Like that's going to be a problem. Or need to eat. And as a foodie, gal's got to eat, gal's got to eat. What are some things you find in like your friend group, social group that you see people struggle with that you wish you could help them with better by doing something?

The need to fit in. I'd like to say that it gets better as you get older, but I don't know if it does. I think you either will continue on the path of I need to be a chameleon and change myself to fit into the situation or you get to the point in your life where you're like, this is who I am. And if you're not vibing with that, we're not going to vibe. The latter is harder, short term, better long term because you're going to run into people who are like, oh, but you used to do this.

Yeah, but that's not who I was. That's not who I am. This is who I really am. And if you're not okay with that, maybe we need to disconnect. So now I'm very much, this is who I am. Some days I will be very, very social and really, really chatty and will love to go out for a drink or a coffee with you. And some days I'm going to, at the end of a session, give you a hug, tell you I love you and I want to get in my car, I want to leave. And I think I found a group of friends and a community that's like, cool.

Some days you're this person because of your mood and then some days you're slightly this person. My moods change, so my energy levels change, but who I am like deep down in the core of my personality and what makes up who I am doesn't change. I'm not going to suddenly become this extreme extrovert that goes out on weekends and drinks and parties and, you know, and if that's what you like, with all of my clubbing clothes and like, if that's truly who you are at your core, that's amazing. That is beautiful. If you found your

niche, you found who you are and I think that's glorious, but I don't think you need to put on that persona to find friends and I understand that's easier said than done. I'm just, I got really lucky, like I got really, really lucky with Rob. Yes and no, you curate that. Yeah, I guess I do. Give yourself some kudos or I will. Yeah, I'm not very good at giving myself like kudos or praise, I'm just kind of like, yeah, I guess it is and I think what, where I am now and my friendships and my

community and with all of my friends is, went through some really tough times with friendships and tried, I like dipped a toe into the chameleon thing, but I wasn't fully committed. Yeah. I love how you actually did. Yeah, physically dipped my toe. It wasn't, I didn't, there wasn't a full commitment, so I was in limbo a little bit. Like this is who I really am, but I want friends so I'm going to try, but I didn't really try. So everyone's a bit like, we don't know where she stands and even up for a while I lost myself and I'm like, I don't even know where I stand.

Like I don't know what's going on. I don't know what I'm doing. So I think where I am now is a reward for all that hard stuff that we all go through in our early twenties and late teens and all that. What do you look for in your friends? Love, support, just a sense of them being genuine. I don't have time for fake people. I don't think we should have time for people who are there to tell us that we're wonderful all the time. Like if I'm being an asshole, I need you to be like, you need to cut out your ring an asshole.

I need people to, I think as friends, one of our jobs as friends, apart from love one another dearly is to self-regulate and to regulate one another. If someone's being a toolbag, they might not realise that they're coming across as a toolbag until I say, Hey Mitch, that's a little bit, and you might be like, Oh, Oh, okay. I think that's really important. I think if you're afraid to tell your friend that what they're doing is not quite right, I would question how close you are in that friendship or how true that friendship is. In all of my friends.

And I've don't have to do it because my friends they're being, they're human, so they're not flawless, but they're pretty, they're pretty fantastic. I wouldn't hesitate to be like, shut up, you're being annoying or I don't think that's quite right. Yeah. I'm happy to tell someone they're being a piece of shit. Yeah. A hundred percent. I think that should be okay. And I think that should be received with like a, Oh, okay. Yeah. Because they know it's not coming. It's not like we're not being malicious about it. Yeah. We're just calling you out on your bullshit.

Sorry, mom. Yeah. I think you actually, we're gonna have to get a telly here. I think I'm more than you. I reckon you might be, but I'm being very conservative. Yeah. But I'm doing most of the talking as well. So conservative, conservative. Oh, I've paused a few times when I went to say something just for the sake of me not getting hit across the head with anything. Yeah. You see my mom more than I see my mom. I know. It's terrifying. I've probably seen lots of people more than they see them. They're family. Yeah. I for sure see mom more than I see mom.

I see her on a Tuesday, a Friday and Saturday. What do you love about your mom? Everything. I could talk about that woman for days and could I talk about it without crying? No. No. I'm crying now thinking about it. She came over from Vietnam to Australia when she was 23 years old, which was pregnant with me at the time. It must've been December. Brand new country. Didn't really speak the language. Half spoke the language, but not really. And sort of just had to figure it out. I couldn't imagine moving yourself to another country and just having to figure shit out on the fly.

Like dad was here and I love my dad. He's an amazing man, but he was probably at the time not ready to be a husband and a father. So he took on two roles. I don't think he was ready to take on and my mom is a very driven person. What she wants, she's going to go for it. So they divorced when I was like, I was young, like three, four, five around there somewhere. Didn't think much of it, but looking back at some photos, you could tell I was impacted by their divorce. My smile definitely didn't reach my eyes the way they do now.

I was sort of smiling or going through the motions of it and just listening. And mom tells me stories all the time. And I always tell her to not tell me the stories because I cry every single time, like literally every single time. And it's the same story. And I know what happens in the story, but I still cry. So she owns her restaurant in Mornington. She does a great job. It's successful. The food's amazing. She's created this clientele that is just unreal. But when I was younger, there were days where she couldn't afford to put petrol in her car and petrol back then was like 80 cents a litre.

Yeah, for those of the days. Yeah. Off right. There was one time in COVID where it was like 90 something cents. I'm like, this is great, but we're not going anywhere. Yeah. Stockpile. Yeah. If only you could. She couldn't put like petrol in the car or she couldn't afford to buy me milk, but I was always loved, clothed, fed. So I don't know how she does it, but she's literally, oh yeah, that's going to happen. I know. She's, she's honestly a superwoman. Can't offer you tissues either. Oh, that's okay. You can use the comfort pillow. See, comfort pillow, emotional support pillow.

Yeah. I just don't know how she does it and she does it with a smile on her face and she, what she did then is why I have the life I have. I would not be living the life I have if it wasn't for her taking all these risks and making all these moves, we would probably, I have a scar at my, we'd probably still be living in Richmond. That's probably still her live a beautiful life because I wouldn't know any different, but she, I'm going to go pirate on you. That's okay. Pillow can come in handy.

She wanted more for me and I think that was really admirable because she could have very easily just gone, it's comfortable here, let's just stay here. But she was like, no, my daughter deserves more than this and she worked her ass off for 29 years to give me the life I have now. So I will always, always be like indebted to her for the rest of my life. Yeah. Um, yeah. So have you ever seen my mum go give her a cuddle? She loves a cuddle. No, she's a Virtus gym girl. She's a Virtus gym. It took us four years to get her here.

Guys. Now I can't get rid of her. So long. So she did a month's trial. They were here yesterday until 1140. The session got gym clothes at 11. Not yesterday. Trust me. You need to give her like a 9 30 to slot because that'll give her an hour and a half to get out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't keep her if I didn't want to. Yeah. Took her four years to get here. She did a month's trial and then she's like, no, I think she's like, I think I'm just going to go back. Cause she's trained in a global gym her entire life, which is fair enough.

It's a massive change when you've been training at a global gym for, geez, 30 plus years. And then she just never went back. She never re she never went back into the gym. She didn't cancel the other gym membership. It was still going. She just never stepped foot back into it. And she goes, I can't. She goes, I just can't because it doesn't feel right. And now she's here. Join the cult. She's joined the cult. It is a cult. My auntie. And my auntie who's currently stuck in Vietnam. She'll be back. She's stuck. Yeah. She'll be coming back.

Guys, if you're flying out, just make sure you have at least six months left on your passport. Yeah. On the return date. Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah. Don't do it on the date. That's where we're stuck. Yeah. That happened. That happened. It's still happening. It's still happening. Yeah. It's still happening, which is hilarious to think about. Can't believe it. But anyway. Yes. Work it out. Yeah. You made it. I made it. I'm here. I only cried once, too. What do you think? I didn't talk about your mother until the end. Yeah. Well done. We all know.

I'm an emotional mess. I am the queen of a power cry. I love a good power cry. I think there is something quite cathartic and strengthening about a power cry. I think the world's hardened us to a point where crying is like, "What are you crying for?" I'm like, "Bastardized." Which is so dumb. For a long time I was like, "I'm not going to cry. I'll cry when I'm hurt and I'll cry when I'm in pain." Sometimes now I cry. I'll literally say to Rob, "I don't know why I'm crying," and he will say, "Probably because you needed to."

That's typically how that goes. Yeah. I'll have literally a two-minute cry, and then I'm good. I'll literally go from a sobbing mess to like, "Anyway, what's for dinner?" So quickly. Can't explain why. Maybe crying because you just needed food. I could have just been angry, to be fair. I do get quite emotional when I'm hungry. So that could also be it. But yeah, there's something really nice about a power cry. I tell my kids all the time, "If you need to cry, you cry." There's nothing wrong with that. No one's judging you, and if they're judging you, I give you permission to swear at them.

Cool teacher. Cool but mean. Yeah. I'm strict. I'm part of it. I can relate to that. Hey? I can relate to that. Yeah. I think there's a fine line. You've got to show them you care, but you've also got to- Show them who's boss. You've got to show them who's boss. Hence the power suit. Yeah. We're all into the power suit these days. When you get into the power suit, so your mom's killer heels that you're wearing. Oh, yeah. Mom wore this. It's a combination of both, actually. I know. She wore this bespoke pink power suit to walk me down the aisle.

With heels bigger and brighter than my future, but anyway. And these sparkly AF Jimmy Choo pumps. Yeah. They were impressive. They were impressive, but also, I also had the same pair, so we wore the same shoes, which was the best thing ever. Yeah. My feet hurt like heckers after that. I'm not going to lie. Worth it. I'm going to go to the driveway for photos. Yeah. Oh, mama. Worth it. It was worth it. My back was sore for three days. Glorious photos. Yeah. Great photos. That photo of you and me hugging outside the church, one of my faves.

Me too. Yeah. Obvious reasons. We'll put it up somewhere. You'll see it. It's the best. It's there. It's there. We love that. Guess what's there? We're done. You made it through your first podcast. Yay. What's your heart rate? I reckon it's still high. I can feel my heart racing. I reckon it's still high. It'll still be high now because we just peaked. Yeah. I reckon it's still high. Again. Apple watch. Give us five. Tessie texted. Seventy. Seventy. That's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. How did you go? I'm sure you were amazing. Well, yes, you were amazing.

I was Tessie. Hey, Tess, I'm still here. I'm still here. I only cried once. And I think we knocked it out of the park. Damn right we did. Yeah. On that note, we're out of here. Thanks, bitch. I'm going to get an apple, I'm going to get an athletics. I'm going to eat food first. Yeah, I'm probably going to do that too. But guess what? Yeah. Luce is going to send us out. Bye, Luce. Have a good day. Bye.