S3 Quickfire · Lachlan Wallace

(clapping) - There we are. - That was a bit dramatic. All right, so this is the Quick Fire 30 with Mr. Lachlan Wallace. The idea of this episode, if you're new to the Quick Fire 30 series, is it's a 10 to 15 minute condensed podcast episode for those that don't want to sit through the full hour. That'll be really interesting to see how that goes today, to see if we can stay confined within the 10 to 15 minute parameters because we had our first double episode of the podcast. - We've tuned up 30 seconds, come on.

- We've wasted 30 seconds already and it's meant to be your episode, not mine. So first of all, Lachlan, any nicknames that you run by? - Nothing too fancy. Wal, Lockie. I got called Kid for the first couple of years at Footy and a few of the older guys still call me Kid. - Kid, brilliant. I'm gonna start calling you Kid. Favorite food? - Ooh, probably just spag bol. I'm a savory man, so most savory things are pretty stock standard. - You wrote something on the whiteboard downstairs. We have a little prompt up there. What's your favorite recovery food?

- Recovery food, yeah, zinger stacker with a big M. So zinger stacker on the way home from a good game of Footy. Make sure I have a big M in the bag and knock those over. - Nice, calorie dance. - Oh yeah. - Which is what we want. Favorite movies? No, actually, singular, movie. - There's no such thing. I mean, it's easy to say movies like The Godfather and The Dark Knight and Interstellar, which are all brilliant films, but my favorite films are whimsical films like Fantastic Mr. Fox, Grand Budapest Hotel, Jojo Rabbit up there. - First of all.

- Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Incredibly underrated film. - What's whimsical, man? - Just a bit fun, not too serious. Depth to it without it being sad and gloomy. - Yep, good. Favorite music? - Oh, at the moment I've got Alicia Keys' Tiny Desk concert on rotation heavily. So NPR Tiny Desk, I love watching YouTube, but favorite music would be The National, The Strokes, Black Keys, Kooks, Mystery Jets, those kind of guys. - Yep, really good. Favorite books? - Yeah, there's plenty. Three books I think everyone should read. Man's Search for Meaning, Viktor Frankl, Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, and Principles, Ray Dalio.

- Tick, tick, and haven't read that one yet. - It's up there, there's a couple of them. - Favorite podcasts? - Ooh, at the moment Howie Games, Dylan Friends are getting a smashing. Bo-isms, Bo Miles podcasts. You know, long, long time fan of Rogan's podcasts. He's gone a little cuckoo the last couple of years, but there's still some quality there. And I reckon the best podcast in the world is Lex Friedman's podcast. - Excellent. Hey, I'm coming over for dinner. What would you cook for me? - Ooh, I'd probably, I'd cook your pasta, 'cause it's easy and you can't really fuck it up.

I love cooking bolognese, but I also love cooking chicken pesto pasta. - What's your favorite type of pasta? - Penne. - Penne, nice. - Yeah, 'cause you get the sauce like stuck in the tubes, the penne tubes. - Yep, yep. Hey, who would you like to join us for that dinner? You got three selections. - Ooh, I really should have thought about this question. Bo Miles, Ray Dalio, and Alicia Keys. - Nice, not Lex Friedman? - He'd be fascinating, but I'd wanna go for a run with him and just, yeah, long, slow, steady state run and talk about good things.

- Yeah, nice. What's your favorite place in the world? This is not a dream destination. Just, yeah, favorite place in your world? - Mornington, more specifically, Virtus. I know it's a cliche answer, but I love this place. I love what it represents and I love the people that are in it. And I love this office. This office is my happy place. - It's a really easy place to come and work, isn't it? - Oh yeah. - Now your dream travel destination. You can go anywhere, there's no limits. - I don't really have one. And so my two dream travel destinations were Japan and going to Machu Picchu.

- And you've gone tick tick. - Tick tick, I'd love to go back to Machu Picchu. Just like the sense of wonder and the feeling that you got from being in a place like that was phenomenal. And I have no doubt I'd feel the similar ways at other ancient wonders of the world. But if I could go anywhere right now, I'd go to Europe 'cause my best mates are over there at the moment. - Join the club. Let's go together next year. If you could teach everyone in the world one thing, what would it be? - You can have anything you want, but not everything you want.

So make your choice and get on with it. - Awesome, deep, perfect day off. What are you doing? - Sleeping in, getting woken up at maybe eight, nine o'clock by the girls. They'd probably jumping on me and waking me up, going out for coffee, going out to coffee with friends, maybe going out to the, going to the beach at some point. Training. - So it's a summer day? - Yeah, summer day. Just spending time doing what Mointen does best. - Yeah, brilliant, unwinding. What was your first car? - Ford Falcon. - Same, first job? - Rebel Sport.

- Just like in sales or like? - Yep, footwear, footwear salesman. - Yep, nice. - Was very good at it, was so much fun. It was such an easy job. - Did you have to have much of an intel about shoes? Like, did you know what you were talking about? - Well, dad's a podiatrist, so I kind of went in with a little bit of understanding and then, and then they teach you a little bit, but no. You just need to be able to talk. - First sporting team? - First sporting team I went for was Collingwood.

There was a year there where I started playing in footy for Seaford Tigers where I went, I started following Richmond 'cause all my friends that I played footy with went for Richmond. - Oh boy. - But that was sorted pretty quickly. - How old were you there? That's huge news. - Five maybe, five, no I would've been a little bit older when I played footy, maybe six or seven. - Our first concert? - First concert was, my first concert was actually a festival, Pyramid Rock. A couple of days after that we went and saw Mystery Jets.

- Does that exist still, Pyramid Rock? - No, Pyramid Rock ceased to exist and the Beyond the Valley took over the site and then Beyond the Valley moved. - Yeah. - Loved to be the festival back in the day. - Well, still do. Dream concert? - Ooh, probably The National. Still haven't seen them live, so yeah. I reckon The National at, what's the rocky amphitheater in Colorado, it's like The Rocks or something? I'd love to see them there. - Great question. What's your pet hate? - Oh, pet hate is people who complain. - Nice, we've sort of already covered this, but which teams and sports do you follow?

So I guess branching out sort of Collingwood now. - Yeah, I love athletics, I'll follow it loosely, but yeah, most of my sport-following time's spent on AFL. - AFL, yeah. Are there any other AFL teams you like other than Collingwood? Or are you one of those ones that just hates every team? - I mean, as a fairly one-eyed supporter, you tend to hate the teams that are good and don't mind the teams that are shit. So like, St Kilda, irrelevant. Geelong were irrelevant for a lot of my childhood, so I didn't mind them, and then they've kind of turned the corner in the last 15 years, so.

But I have a healthy like for Geelong, 'cause a lot of our family go for Geelong. - When have you failed and learned from it? - Every day. I've fucked up so many times. I think my biggest learnings, my biggest learnings are centered around doing things that I think I want, or that society kind of tell me that I should want, and then you kind of chase it and work for it and get it in different ways, shape, or form, and then realize, hey, this isn't actually what I wanted. So the learning is to center

back and be really self-aware around what's important to you and what you need and what you want in a particular moment and for a particular point in time, and chasing that rather than just chasing what you think you should. - Hey, this is the Quick-Fire 30. Oh, I've lost my place. What did you want to be when you were a kid? 'Cause I don't anticipate you thought you were gonna open up a gym in this community. - No, I didn't know I was gonna open up a gym until I was like 23 and signed the lease.

Ooh, I think, I don't know, Mum's probably the best person to ask for this. I know I wanted to play footy. - Yep, classic. - I didn't really, I don't think I really had like, you know, I didn't want to be an astronaut or a policeman or anything like that. Like, I think I wanted to be a footballer and I wanted to be an athlete. - Nice, so you are, you've achieved it. - It was never good enough. - Your worst habit. (laughing) - Saying I'm gonna do something and then not doing it or not

properly articulating a timeframe and having my wife call me out on the fact that I said I was gonna do something more quickly than maybe I would have done it. - Not just his wife, but it happens to everyone. What do you wish every Virtus member knew? - That showing up is 98% of the battle. - Yeah, too much used apps on your phone? - Ooh, lately probably, probably the Notes app. I've been trying to-- - Good left of field answer. - Yeah, I've been trying to, sounds silly, I've been trying to compile my thoughts and quotes and everything in Notes app.

I basically wanna create a big database of all the shit I care about. So probably Notes app and VV, which is like a collectibles app, I fucking love it. - How'd you go with the drop? - I didn't get it, don't wanna talk about it. - That's why I didn't get up at 1 a.m. This is my favorite question. What's your most controversial opinion? - Recycling is a waste of time. - Yeah, good. - Would you like me to articulate? - Yeah, okay, yeah. - I'll articulate. - Elaborate. - Elaborate. So I don't think recycling is a waste of time, full stop.

I think the impact that we as individuals make is so far outweighed by big corporations and by the machine that us sucking Coke Zero through a paper straw and getting, and tasting a paper straw the whole time is a complete waste of time. I think that the system is broken and the impact we can make is so negligible that it doesn't matter what we do, which I know is very pessimistic, but hey. - Nope, good answer. Piss a few people off. If you haven't annoyed people, then you haven't stood up something that you believe in. - I'm gonna be the guy that stands up against recycling.

What a hill to die on. - What a hero. What are you currently listening to? - Your sultry voice in my ears. I'm currently listening to Eddie Betts' book. - Nice. Didn't know that was released, actually. Have to get on it. What are you currently watching? - Better Call Saul. I've got like half an episode to go of the second last, or the penultimate episode. - Oh, yeah, I watched that last night. - Yeah, so I got half of that to go. What else am I watching? Animal Kingdom. I've been smashing YouTube a lot lately. I forked out and got on YouTube Premium, which-- - Which is worth it.

- Which is so worth it. I have YouTube on for 90% of the day when I'm in the office, and when Lucy's watching Amber Wiggle and all that kind of stuff, her eyes just perked up hearing Amber Wiggle. I just can't believe I didn't pay for it early on. It's saving me so much time each day. - It's worth it. I'll definitely get, and being able to lock your phone and still listen to stuff. - It's game changing. - You won't go back. - You certainly won't. - What do you suck at? - Taking my own advice.

- Favorite quote? - Between stimulus and response, there is a space. A space to choose your response. In your response, there is growth and freedom. Viktor Frankl. - I reckon your favorite quote changes every time you get asked. - It does. - You just pick a random one out, and say, "That's the one I'm gonna say this time?" - That, which is intrinsically linked with another one, which is you have power over your mind, not outside events. Realize this, and you'll find strength. I think if you take those two quotes, and leave your lot, that is Marcus Aurelius.

If you, which, it doesn't matter, old stoic philosopher. But if you take those two quotes, and use them to build the framework of your life, you're probably gonna have a pretty solid existence. - Probably gonna win. Probably no point asking this question. Do you have a morning routine? - Nah. - Nah. - Roll out of bed, get in the car, open the door, wait for Banksy to run through it. That's it. I'm gonna be hard with two maniacs running your life. - Yeah, even before them. It's, I have definitely been struggling getting up early, but I would, yeah.

Perfect morning is like 20 to six, alarm goes off. 18 to six, I'm out the door. Quarter to six, I'm at work. - This is the same question we've had before, but just redressed. Most impactful piece of advice. - Most impactful, find the thing you love to do and do it. I guess, which is pretty ambiguous, but don't settle for a life that doesn't fill you up. Because I guess the fortunate part of our job is we get to speak to so many different people and hang out with so many different people. And don't chase what society wants, chase what you want.

- Good. Why are you a coach? - Because I wasn't a very good athlete. I just love helping people, I guess, in a nutshell. My values are heavily centered around people and place and being a coach allows me to connect with those two things and allows me to help other people do good things. - I suppose the last question was a really good segue for that. Suppose you want to help people chase the life that they want and not settle for. - Yeah. - Things that don't fulfill them. - Exactly. - Who in your world would make a great guest for the podcast?

- Ooh. Trying to think of someone who I haven't already interviewed on the podcast. Darren Murr is an easy answer because we want to get him on soon. But he's fascinating. Love and abyss just connects really well on a lot of our values, I think. - And he can talk. - And he can talk, which obviously I can do really well. - Finally, what happens when you die? - Nothing. I don't know, I have absolutely no idea. Let's start it with that. I love the Keanu Reeves quote, "The people who love us will miss us." I think that's a brilliant way to think about it.

But honestly, I've no idea. Probably nothing. I think, I actually read an article this morning of someone was in a near death situation and was in a coma for a little bit. And when she woke up, grabbed a pen and wrote, "It's real," laid into heaven. But I don't know, I think it's-- - I mean, you dream when you're in a coma, don't you? - Yeah, well, that's it. It's like, our body likes comfort and our brain's very good at protecting us. So I would say absolutely nothing. Same thing that happened before we were alive, but who knows?

All I know is we're here for an incredibly short amount of time. So let's have a crack and make the most of it. - If that doesn't get you up off the couch at home, nothing will. Thanks for tuning in. - Cheers to you all. - 16 minutes. - We're out. - Not bad.