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S3E44 · Mitch’s return to football, training for aesthetics, Tyler’s Euro trip approaches

12 May 2023 · 32:06

This week as the weather begins to get colder, Mitch made his return to wearing short shorts on a field and running around chasing a ball for an hour and a half, Tylers euro trip closely approaches quickly and chats about training for aesthetics? Enjoy!

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Hello you beautiful people, here we are back on the Virtus Performance Podcast. It's officially beanie in trackies weather. I like it, it's cosy. Mitch didn't get the memo and you wear shorts. Hey I had pants on yesterday and the day before. And you've torn your lulus. Yeah, I don't know how I did this. But you had really short shorts on on Saturday. I did have very very short shorts that day. They were the same shorts I wore when I was playing 19s. Tell us about the return. Mitch was back playing football everybody. Yeah, it might be the last time I add to my phone at 7 o'clock on a Friday night.

Nah, I was on the gym floor so it wasn't that bad. Who got you involved? Who got you in? Was it Harry? Well it was both of them. It was Darren and Harry. But I did tell them a while ago that you get me for three games using wisely. Just qualify for finals if the two is going to play finals? Pretty much, yep. Don't know if the two is going to play finals though. You're upsetting. Yeah look, don't know. Just don't know anything. How'd you find it? Honestly, I wasn't worried about it because I'd been doing a heap of training so I wasn't worried about that.

I knew I was going to run around in circles for three and a half quarters until I finally worked it out. But yeah, fine. Honestly it wasn't as bad as what other people thought it might be. How long has it been since you played? Well I got kneed in the spine so that's it. Left my spine in the half-ord flying somewhere. I broke my back. Yeah, I broke my back. What did you say? What was the question? How long has it been since you played? I played 2018. I reckon I played half a season. That's half a decade ago.

Yeah, that's when I went to America. So I only played like six games I reckon. It's blowing my mind at the moment that that was five years ago. Yeah, it's terrifying. It's crazy. So when did you snap your ankle then? Twenty, oh eight years ago. Like ten or eleven years ago. Alright. Long time. Long time. Well it was good to see you back out there. In fact, it did cross my mind that it was ten or eleven years ago, like a week ago. I was like oh, here we go again. That's like me. I was on a cruise ship on the hundredth anniversary of the Titanic sinking.

Oh. That's terrifying. Was it, were you in the Arctic? Antarctic? Or was it a? Nah, we were in the, I don't know, oceans. Was it the Atlantic Ocean the Titanic sank in? Yes. On the way to New York? The cold one. The cold one. The one with the icebergs. Came out the same year I was born. Contact. What did? You were born in 1912. Oh, the movie. Yeah. Good from James Cameron. T Frost, how's your week been? Actually, it's been a fortnight because we did the double episode last week. Yeah, yeah, we didn't do one. So what's been happening in your world?

What's been happening in my world? I go away in eighteen days. Counting down. It's not annoying for me because I like talking about it. It's probably annoying for other people. I imagine you two have heard me have the conversation about going away. Not me. Literally over a hundred times. Not me. I'm happy for you. I appreciate it. You're very uncomfortable now, isn't he? Nah. It makes me weird when you're nice, which I appreciate. How's the prepping going? Are you booking things? Are you ready to rock? Yeah, everything booked and paid for. I'd like to get one more trip locked in.

I'm probably being really annoying to my friends that live over there because I'm trying to get shit booked and paid for now. Because I'm not going to have the budget to do that while I'm there, just to book a spontaneous trip to wherever. But they've got jobs and shit and they've got to navigate their leave and stuff so they don't really know what they're doing. So I'm probably being really annoying. You haven't put your leave request in, by the way. Hey. Yeah. What's the deadline? Probably being no-deal. I think Tyler's going to put that in the boat.

He's been talking about it so much, he's just forgotten the email. Cancel all the flights and bookings. They're all refundable. Yeah, I love that. But yeah, when someone asks, "What's been going on? What's happening on the weekend?" Blah, blah, blah. I don't really like, even though we all do it and we're all guilty, but I hate saying, "Ah, nah, not much." I've just been saying, "Oh, fucking 18 days will go away. Go away. Go to Europe." I've fucking talked about it that many times, but I guess that's the most present thing that's happening in my life right now.

Yeah, it's a nice little reminder that we view the world through our own lens. So the thing that's most important to us at any particular time is going to be the thing that you want to bring up or that comes to mind when someone asks you, "How are you going?" I feel the same thing with the house. It's like trying to find the house now, being on the other side. I'm so sick of talking about it. That's something I've heard you talk about heaps. But everyone asks, "How's the house hunt going?" It's like, "Ah, well, this sucks.

This sucks. This sucks." It's a nice little reminder that there's a lot of other shit going on in the world that isn't in your frame of reference at that particular point in time. What's going on in your world outside of the house? Great question. Backfire footy, which we love. Except we play Shit House on the weekend, which we don't love. You just be grumpy. It was so grumpy Saturday night. It got a big cuddle from the girls after the game, which was a nice centering moment. Just to be like, "No, this really matters. The girls are happy and healthy."

How did you deal with the shitty game before the girls? You don't have anyone to give you a big cuddle. You didn't. I was just grumpy for a bit. I think I've worked a lot over the last decade or so progressively in being less married to the result of football or how I've played or things like that. There was a time five, ten years ago where a lot of my identity was built up in who I was as a footballer and then who I was as a coach and things like that. But I feel as though I'm finding more separation from that now.

But yeah, I used to just be grumpy for the night. I've been grumpy for a couple of days actually. I'm a little bit sick as well. I didn't eat breakfast this morning, so I'm running on fumes. I apologise if I'm not at my best today. Most important meal of the day I've heard. Seriously, some would say. But yeah, it was not a great day to return. We weren't fantastic, but this is the beautiful thing about sport. We got a week to sort our shit out and we get another crack at it next week. I was driving home.

We got your mob this week. The mighty hillman. The hillman. At home, which I found out today, which is a good result. I don't want to be up in Redhill. I thought it was up on the mountain. Yeah, all I wanted to do on the way home was like, I wish I was driving a footy now so I could have another crack at it and sort our shit out. But it's a nice, like, I like that with sport, whereas you get end of the game, you get full stop, you get to lick your wounds and front up again to training this week and have another crack.

So yeah, that's, footy's been the main thing going on in my world at the moment. Just getting settled at Mum and Dad's and getting preps for 18 days time when we lose you and we've got to fill some holes. Are we prepped, by the way? Nah. We've just got some boxes ticked this week and we'll be fine. We'll get there. How's your training going Mitchell? Well, I haven't done much for like three days. Too bad I didn't do much last week anyway. I was also a bit man flu-y, so. For your 75 hard playing footy count as a session, did you do another one that day?

Yeah, I went for a walk. Okay. Yeah, I went for a 45 hour walk. You hit a 45 hour walk? 45 to an hour, sorry. You hit a milestone? Oh, I guess so. I mean, like, every day is a milestone. Ah, shut up. Pump yourself up. No, but seriously though, you don't just hit an end point and then, you know, all's well. No. Smell the roses. You hit a milestone. You celebrated a win. Yeah, I don't even know if it was a milestone in my head, but I think everyone else thought it was more of a milestone than I thought it was.

Good for me. But yeah. Tell the people. Oh, you can tell them. Got to under 100 KGs. Yes. What, 23 Ks down, was it? Some are, yeah. That's huge, mate. Should be very proud of yourself. It's August-ish, somewhere around there. Was there, I've been meaning to ask you this, but was there a moment where you made a choice to make changes, or was it something that slowly progressed over? I mean, a bit of both, but I remember on A Night at Saints, we were doing some jump testing, and you have to calibrate the force plates.

You got to stand on it and weigh yourself, and I think that was probably the moment when I was like, "Yeah, it's probably not ideal." That was about it, really. But every day, it's just the whole, even now doing the 75 heart, the whole 75 heart thing itself is more of a mindset and discipline than it is a physical or mental output. So I guess I've been unofficially doing that since. To be fair, even for the 75 heart, it's the social media thing that you follow, but for the most part, which is why I keep saying I haven't found it that difficult, I'd already kind of been doing that.

So it's just more of an accumulation over a long period of time. Yeah, now you're just articulating the squares, the boxes, you've got to tick off each day. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. And most days, I would do two sessions anyway, in some form or another. And for the last month, I've been doing three or four sometimes, but last week, I had a bit of a deload, which I needed anyway, and I got a bit man-fluid, so it was kind of tied up pretty nicely. How far in are you now? Forty-two. Yeah, sweet, so over halfway, that's great.

That's huge, I feel like you've been going way longer. But I guess that's right, you've been unofficially doing it since before, yeah. Yeah, officially. I mean, the only thing that really changes is reading. That was the only thing that I really added. Better now I got rid of that book. Fucking principles. Draw me a book. Yeah, I'll go back to it one day. But it's a good nudge, if you're not enjoying a book you're reading, or a show you're watching, or something you're doing. Two days back to back, and I was like, "The fuck did I even read yesterday?"

I was like, "I probably don't need to be reading that." And I'm not someone who simmers on something for very long, I just change it and move on to something else. Yeah, it's a great lesson. So that sucks for you. Yeah, love that. What about any- Yeah, I think a lot of books can be summarised in the first chapter or two. I don't know about principles. I mean- The first 140 pages is about his life, so that never helped me. Principles is broken out into three parts. If you don't want to read the first part, just read the second two.

Principles is pretty easy, you could summarise in like five or six things. So we should have rules that govern how we make decisions and how we live our life. And if we do that, and learn from failure and all those kind of things, we're going to be fine. But yeah, this is my favourite thing about chapter GPT. Dear chapter GPT, please, because you've got to have manners with our artificial overlords, please summarise this book for me in five points. My Snapchat one, I've given it a name. I'm so polite to it, I just treat it like a normal human being.

Why does that not surprise me at all? Wait, there's a Snapchat AI? Hey? There's Snapchat AI? Yeah. Go on. Ask Oli Lappa about it next time you see him. Freaks him out, yeah. Mate, it freaks me out when I actively go and look for it. But there's Grammarly as well has got it now. Take it over. I think, I don't know, I'm the only person that sees the potential good in it. Everyone thinks it's going to take over the world. I think it's just another tool, right? It's like the internet or electricity or the printing press, whatever.

It's a big invention that makes big monumental changes to how we live our life. If it's going to get supposedly as smart as it's meant to in the next couple of decades, that can solve space travel and shit. Anyway, I'm serious. If it's meant to get that smart, substantially smarter than us, then why not? It can solve a lot of problems that we haven't been able to. I mean, a lot of the – oh, this is probably getting a little – Here we go. No, go on. Strap in. Strap on. Mate, most of the problems that we need to solve in the world are already solvable or have already been solved.

There's just not a capitalistic driver to keeping them solved. So things like, what are the big issues across the world at the moment? Homelessness. Homelessness. Yeah, world hunger. World hunger, all these kind of things. If there was capitalistic reasons for these things to be solved, they would have been solved 20 years ago. Yeah. So hopefully Chat GPT shifts us – or Chat GPT, artificial intelligence, shifts us to a point where all of the dumb shit that we shouldn't be doing, it does all that stuff and we get to enjoy life as humans, but fortunately, it seems to be going the other way.

That's a conversation for another day. What hot topics have we got today, boys? Someone else started us off. I've started us off the last two podcasts. Oh, have you? Yeah. Fuck, it's all about you, isn't it? Yeah, it's all about you. So I'm going to go with lucky to start. I have one. And this is a realization I've kind of come to personally the last couple of years is I always felt – so majority of my training and majority of the reason why this gym exists is for capacity growth, right? It's for athletic developmental changes so you can run faster, jump higher, lift more, all that kind of stuff.

And all of those goals or those justifications for training are brilliant motivators, but one of the things that's never really been a motivator for me is training for aesthetics, but I think especially as you get a little bit older maybe or where you're not finding the groove in training like personally I haven't been lately is shifting that mindset from a capacity training to aesthetic training can be immensely valuable. Discuss. Summarize first and then let's discuss. Say what you just said more concisely. Training for aesthetics is a brilliant motivator to get you going in the gym. Yeah, well I mean I've recently made that switch.

Started last year, started 2022. What was the driver of that shift? Literally – so I worked with or still do work with Alex Sandalas as my coach and it was originally for like some – I wrap it up. Punching fairies, mate. Couple of hand movements. Yeah, you fucking rattled it. So where am I? Started with Alex and that was originally for some like gut and skin stuff and because like I'd always tried to put on a heap of weight, but then like would get flare ups and whatever symptoms and then would have to like stop eating so much.

But then yeah, we've sorted that out. So now we're focusing on aesthetics, which is something I've never really trained for either. So it's been good to like do a different sort of style of training because all my life it's just been performance and strength and power and I guess yeah, capacity building. So it's been good to dive into a different realm that I've originally had not much experience of. And it's just all about like practising what you preach I guess. Like one day – which I spoke about on the podcast that dropped yesterday with Lachie and Jacob.

If one day I'm working with someone that wants to put on weight or train for aesthetics or whatever, then I know the struggles that they're going to go through when they have to eat a whole heap of food or if they have to cut, then you know, be in a massive deficit. Not that I've been in the deficit yet, but when I get to that point, I want to, you know, I'll know the struggles that that person's going to feel and I'll be able to help them out through experience. Yeah, for me, all of the getting bigger, thicker, stronger, more muscly, more aesthetic has always been like a byproduct of the other stuff.

Whereas like I'm kind of in a stage of my training now where I kind of – and it's only been a shift over the last week or two and I haven't done too many sessions to back it up yet. But the driver of going, well, I just want to – like I want to look a little bit leaner, I want to look a bit better and the sloppy dad bod that's kind of crept into my physical look over the last couple of years, like I don't want to be that. I don't want to be the

– not that I'm unhealthy or not strong or anything like that, but I want to start leaning back into the, well, I actually want to look good and I actually want to feel good to go along with that. Because I reckon there was a – it might not have been conscious, but there was like definitely – because I've never really trained for that, right? There was definitely a couple of years ago where I'm like, oh, I don't care how I look as long as I can play good footy and I can still lift heavy and still go for runs and still do all the things.

But I think there's a really – it's almost like an extra part of it that if you actively try and look good, all of the other stuff comes to. So you can – and I guess from being in an athletic performance gym, as a baseline, you kind of – I certainly kind of look down on that, have looked down on that as a potential driver, whereas now it's like, well, whatever gets the oars rowing, like whatever gets the boat going, that's going to be the thing that we need. And now through like having eaten a

shitload more food and doing a whole heap of different movements and actually putting on more muscle, my deadlift has gone up exponentially despite only deadlifting once per week, whereas in the past I'm deadlifting three times a week. For what reason, my deadlift's gone up. It could be numerous things, probably interplay of a lot of different things, but yeah, it's just interesting that I was probably in the same boat as you. Thoughts? I don't know. I've been thinking about it for four and a half minutes or three, until I literally looked up. I don't know. I think I've never dove one but always dove them all.

Like I don't – I never have fit into a boat of training for X and like even when I was like from an athlete point of view trying to be an athlete, like I never really thought about that. I'm very so much someone who just does the things that need to be done for the sake of doing them, but still being like enjoying but also aware of like this is just what I need to do. And even at the moment, like I was just thinking about now, but I don't think I still fit myself in any of those boats either.

Like I just – I mean for me at the moment, like now that I have two functioning knees, like I enjoy like the fitness side more than I do the strength and power stuff, but like I still do the strength and power stuff and even with like all my clients and athletes and stuff like that. Even if they do have aesthetic goals, I don't think I really think of them as aesthetic goals, but at the same time I don't. I don't know. It's a really weird way to kind of summarise it, but yeah, I don't think I ever really fit into one category, but I always fit into them all.

I think that's probably the easiest way that I can summarise it. Yeah, I think for me maybe it's just because – I never have a one focus I guess. You want what you don't have sometimes as well. Like allowing – like say what it is, letting myself go a little bit over the last couple of years because there's been a real shift in my priorities with the girls and with work and things like that and my training has kind of fallen down the bottom of the priorities ladder. Is now that I am not as lean

as I was or not as jacked as I was or whatever words we want to use, I think that's maybe part of the drive too. So I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to look good naked and KP will probably be happy with me saying that hopefully. So good you reckon? Nah, done. So done. I haven't slept properly in three years so. I reckon for me it's – I don't think your environment can be underestimated either. The people who I hang out with now is not who I used to hang out with in that kind of shapes and changes who it is.

Even on the weekend playing footy, everyone goes upstairs after and has a thousand beers and does all that. I just don't care for that anymore so that's not the people who I surround myself with. Whereas now the people who I do surround myself with are probably fit into a hybrid model of human like run, strength, train, still enjoy themselves. Graphic cocktails, that's just who I surround myself with so that's probably where I fit myself into now. On that, not drinking any booze all of May so I don't have a sexy name like Try July for it but this is a little bit of personal accountability.

We're a week in, not missing it but I've rearranged my month a little bit to make sure that it doesn't happen so if anyone sees me near a beer, don't let me go near it. I was going to say mid-strength May but no, that doesn't make sense. No, it's alright, we don't need one. Just no booze for May, that's it. A bit of social accountability. I don't even have to avoid it. It just doesn't make up. You've been seven weeks of not having it. And don't care for it, don't miss it. There hasn't been a

moment where I'm like I really want a beer but I actively look for opportunities to go have cocktails or to do things like that and I think it's just the opportunity to go for a month, none of that. We've got an event in June that will break it with the gin and whisky night which is going to be a good time but I think it's nice to re-evaluate your relationship with these things whether it be chocolate or alcohol or whatever else, fast food. I have a challenge for you. You need to set up a night where you go out for cocktails with all your friends and not have it because I think that's more empowering than avoiding it.

Yeah, a bit of whisky at the Fizzes a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, but even then I didn't care for it. It was good whisky on the table but I wasn't bleeding for it and I think that's more empowering than just avoiding all those situations. Yes, 100%. We didn't win on the weekend so there was an opportunity to avoid it. We'll win this week and I'll watch the beers float around and then I won't have one. Yeah, that's it. Remember shout outs? Anyone been doing really good things? You got a hot topic, Tyler? Hey. You got a hot topic?

Oh yeah, we didn't go back to that, did we? Well, I thought Lachlan's got a wrap up at midday. I do actually. You've got 30 minutes for your time. You got a real big hot topic? Nah, I don't. No? Mitchell? I don't have a big one. Surely Mitchell's got one. I thought Tyler was going to say something about travel being a hot topic but I'll go debate then. Plan your trip or don't plan your trip? Depends on the trip. So for someone who has travelled a lot and for someone who hasn't travelled at all and also for someone who's travelled a lot, what do you reckon?

For me right now, plan your trip. The dream is to be in a position one day where I don't have to plan your trip but right now very much so. I've done two big trips, one to South East Asia and one to South America. The South East Asia one, we essentially planned the whole thing in terms of routes and I guess you could say loosely planned. We knew where we were going. We hadn't booked anything. We were going to book it there outside of a couple of flights and things like that. But we knew we

were going to spend a couple of nights in Bangkok and then I think ten days or something in… Tyler's going to giggle so I was waiting for him. A couple of weeks in Cambodia and then a couple of weeks in Vietnam and then circle back around to finish in Thailand and then fly home. So we essentially planned out the whole thing but there were also like eight of us that went and a few that flew in and out so you kind of had to have an idea of where we were at. Whereas South America trip, booked flight in, booked flight out and that was essentially it.

We knew that we were going to spend a little bit of time in Chile and then the plan like we knew… There he is. We knew that we wanted to go Peru, Bolivia, Argentina. I knew that I wanted to end up down in Patagonia at some point but there was essentially a seven week window where like who knows, who knows what happens. I don't know, they're different kinds of trips like I was able to do a big 180 or big left turn during that South America trip that I wouldn't have been able to do the South East Asia trip.

And I guess it's a little bit different for you because you're kind of based in London so you could potentially book stuff later if you wanted to but… Yeah, I think for mine it's more financial like I'll be getting close to a pretty well normal income off somewhere over there. I've saved a little bit but not enough so the idea is pay for all the big shit now like flights, accommodation, go over there, essentially do what I do here and that is just pay to live and eat and… I did get five weeks into the

South America trip and went where the fuck is all my money gone and the main reason was because I forgot, I essentially forgot that I had to pay a mortgage while I was away. So there was money coming out every week where I was like oh shit, that was my safety net so that hurts. What about you? I think I'm in the loosely bracket. Have an idea but not lock it all away. Yeah, even for the trip that I will go on, I think I'll just book flights and work the rest out when I get there.

I did it last time too. I went for eight weeks, ten weeks last time and I think I planned five days. It was the first five days. If you're on top of all the visa requirements… But also shit just comes up like you do. I've been on a tour trip and I've been on a free roam trip. Tour trip, you've got to be XYZ at this time and I fucking hated that. Just let me go roam. One of the best three or four days that I've ever had was on an island off the coast of Cambodia that we hadn't planned on going to.

We ended up staying there for a couple of extra nights and we had the best time and it was driven by not having any idea where we were going to end up. To be fair, outside of accommodation and flights and where I'm going to be, I haven't planned too much. I tried to buy an Eiffel Tower ticket the other day and that's all fucking sold out. You have to go to the black market. So that's something you've got to plan for. There's going to be a lot of Tyler's feet in this video podcast I reckon. Oh yeah, no one's watching.

I enjoyed getting to the night off going, I don't know where I'm staying tomorrow. No, I hate that. It's fun, you just work it out. If you go to sleep on a train, you go to sleep on a train. You've just got to do what you've got to do. Where's the train going? It's just a city loop and you're sleeping. Yeah, Jeezer, nah. What if someone steals your shit sitting right there next to you? Shit happens, it could be worse. It's tangible. Good topic. Remember, shout out to who we've got, who's been doing good things. We're both looking at you.

I've been spending a lot of time on the floor. I'm always just going to circle back to the guys that I've programmed for and that's the ones I'm biased to. Tim Erbak from the Philippines. Back training again. Making the world a better place. Always good to have Daz back in the gym. Coffee with him this morning. Nice and calming being in his company. Yeah, nice soothing boys, Daz. Chrome down. I will go with Steph Francis who ran last week. Atta girl. She baited me into saying I can't turn anyone into a run and I said prove it.

And I said if you don't go for a run, well you owe me coffee. That's where we're going with that. Rach Hansen, also I had to moderately blackmail for her to come to the gym. I said if you don't come to the gym four times, you've got to go for a 5K run. But it worked. So those two, just from a VGT standpoint. From an athlete development point, I think Alirene's had three or four gold medals on the weekend again. Atta girl. Straight open champs. Yeah, probably the main three I guess. We could have Alex Bose back in consistently.

He's copped COVID a few times and a few health things. So it's nice to see him back consistent, doing good things. Hamish Terrace, good date last week. Walked in with the biggest hat I've ever seen. Doing this one. Big head. Yeah, good. It's all happening. Come on, give me someone else. Mattie Riley had a national karate tournament in Muddum in Perth over the weekend. And? TBC. He's out of Muddum in the morning, so fair enough. Nah, actually you know how I will. Harry Lane. Just a little warrior on the weekend. Mate, he's playing good footy. Considering his shoulder was hanging off a couple of weeks ago.

Oh, it's still hanging off. He's protected it though. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's the... I don't know. Coaching me and the player in me has two very different things about that part. Yeah, you've just got to leave both of them there. Attaboy. He's doing well. It's not exactly flourish for numbers either, sir. It's true. It's true. Flourished? Flushed? Time to do what I meant. Any gym updates? Anything anyone needs to be aware of? No, second week of EGT program. Bring a friend week this week. So if you're watching or listening, you've got six more days to bring some good humans along.

I don't know. I swear, like, throughout the week, there's a lot of stuff going on. But then when I come here and I'm not thinking about it, I go, "Oh, fuck. I don't know." And I walk away from this and there's a heap of shit going on. Two events coming up. We're going to do a... Actually, I need to lock this in. We're going to do a monkey movement workshop in the start of June, I think the 4th. Bit of connection, bit of breath work, bit of cold water exposure. So you'll have to zoom in for that.

I will. And then gin and whiskey night at the Rumble, the 24th of June will be a bit of fun. Early bird tickets are on sale right now. They'll be on sale for the next three weeks until the end of May. So if you want to save 20 bucks, get on early. Any more for any more? Mother's Club, run day. We call it Mother's Club run. Mother's Day run club. Yeah, we're calling it Mother's Day club run. I'm so confused. Save for shit. Run club on Mother's Day. 8 a.m. start, not 8.30. Lulu Lemon. Noose. Lulu Lemon sponsored, charitable donation.

Supported. Yeah, supported. That's the word I'm looking for. Yeah, for all the mothers, there'll be some little goodies and some little things on offering. Walk, run, dogs, kids. Coffees. Get around it. Coffees, yeah. There'll be lots of things going on. Lots of the Lulu crew as well, which will be good. Are you going to come down for that one or are you going to come down at 9.15? Well, Jazzy wants to go. She does want to go, yeah. She wants to bring Sarah down, which I'm terrified for. I'll probably be hungover. That's fair. You'll be here.

It starts at 8, mate. You'll be here. I'll be here. She didn't tell me about that, but yes. Yeah, well, to all the moms out there, thanks for being you. You're ace. Stay tuned for, we've got some running events coming up. There'll be about six or seven events that we do prior to the Melbourne Marathon, which will be the big one. Huge. If you're a runner and you want to come along and join, we'll be doing some of those. 5, 10, half marathons, marathons, and then we're going to do a big Virtus training run up near St Kilda.

Pretty flat. For those that are doing marathons, like 30, 35K run, and then those that are doing the rest start at different times. I'll come and do 10 with you. Sounds good. Any more for any more? Sunday yoga will be commencing. More on that. When there's more on that. A bit of vinyasa or what are we thinking? Yep. That's what she did last time, so I'm going to assume so. It's been a pleasure. Good for you all. Have a good day.

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