S3E59 · Jazziecast: Update on the life of Jazzie

I don't want to do this. Come on. Jazzy podcast. You excited? Have you recorded it? Yeah, we're on. Oh, cool. Yeah, super excited. When was the last time you were on one of these? Oh, I don't know. George's podcast? The train wreck one. Yeah, or maybe the one-- Were you there? Well, I wouldn't know because I listened to about five minutes and then I had to turn it off. I actually know the podcast you're talking about. That's the one with Tess and Georgia and Liv. Liv was there as well, yeah. I haven't watched that one. Jazzy had nothing to do with it?

No, I think I did the same and watched about five minutes, sorry. But it was just Georgia and Mitch, and I was kind of sitting there for moral support and didn't ask any questions. Was meant to be a co-host, but Mitch just started talking and I just sat there. Love it. Love it. Well, the people have been crying out for some more Jazzy. So I want to know what Jazzy's been up to in the last few months, and I want to know what Jazzy's been up to in the last few months because there's a bit going on.

Can we have a Jazzy count? I think you just said it five times. We'll have a Jazzy count. Georgia, it's a Georgia job. But what's been happening? I've been back for about two months now, but a lot's been happening in the life of Jazzy since I've been gone and back. That's like seven. Yeah. Well, we were in footy in season, so I was previously with this season with Saints, with Mitch as well. So we just finished our season two weeks ago, two or three weeks ago maybe now. Just missed out on finals. That was tense. On percentage.

Yeah. So we were hoping, but we just missed out. What are you doing? Nah, continue. Sorry, I was fiddling with things. Yep. Yeah, so that's probably what's been taking up most of my time, as well as just my own training and running. And you said you were with Saints. So what's the go there? I love that you grabbed the chair. Strap in. So I just got a new position with a different club. So I'll be moving over to the VFLW program with Box Hill Hawks, where I'll be the high performance manager, which is exciting. Well, how does a high performance manager role look different to what you were doing?

So what was the name of your former role? So I was the rehab coordinator. Yeah, and so then how does this role differ? Yeah, so I guess there's similar in the sense of you're coordinating a group of individuals. But previously in the rehab role, that's for anyone that has an injury or is modified in some capacity based on what the training demands are. So unfortunately, we had a few ACLs this season, as well as a few other injuries. So I was managing about a group of five to six individuals for a long term perspective. And then day by day modifying girls based on what current training needs are.

So yeah, I was more coordinating a small base group. And now I've got a-- I should say we, we have a list of about 60, 50, 60 girls plus potential train ons. And I will not just be looking after the rehab. I'm actually taking a step away completely from rehab, which is scary, and managing a full list of the whole team. So I'll be the manager. The big dog. Yeah, which if you know me, is not my character or personality, which is exactly why I applied and exactly why I am doing the job. I love it.

I reckon you've got to beat a dog in here. Thanks, Tyler. That's a compliment. That's a compliment. No, it is a compliment. So at Saints, your job was to get the injured girls back playing again. And whereas here, your job is to keep the fit girls fit. Yeah, pretty much. So it's, I guess, the opposite in a way. But I always just say good training is good training. The principles that I have been applying from a rehabilitation perspective is now just in a different application. What-- and you sort of touched on before, like you were sort of keen to step out of your comfort zone.

What's something else you're looking forward to with this new role? Oh, as in like, what do you mean? Yeah, what are you most excited for? Well, I'm excited to just get to know everyone. And ever since I started working in sport, you just meet some incredible people. And Saints was no different. I definitely met some awesome humans, which is why I was very sad to leave and still mix emotions. But I'm excited to just work in a team and challenge myself, as I will have to manage a large list of girls, as well as helping oversee a program of staff members, which is a group and a team and a collaboration, which is great.

But yeah, probably just to step outside completely of my comfort zone and just learn. No, I'm so excited for you two. We all are. We're so keen to see you be the big dogs, as I said. I reckon you've got a bit of dog in you. Thanks, Tyler. Keen to see it come out. How'd you go with the tough conversation at Saints? Well, everyone was really supportive. But I did-- sorry, Mitch-- spend 25 minutes on the phone call on how to actually best manage the conversation and how to do it, because I was a bit nervous to say it.

But everyone was really supportive. I just gave my manager a call and let her know that I was offered the position, and they were really supportive, which is awesome. And then I went from there, FaceTiming my rehabbers, which was not exactly the nicest thing to do, because I will miss them. And I just didn't-- don't really want to leave them. Don't want to leave them at all. So yeah, that was kind of how I just managed it. I just called up and told them the news. Beat the bullet. Yeah. Give us an insight into Mitch's advice for you, this 25-minute FaceTime call.

Oh, no. He just basically led me down a path with questions. So he was like, what do you need me for? Why am I here? What do you want? I just need help, and I need help on actually understanding how I'm feeling and what I want to be able to-- what I actually want to do. I just didn't know how to go through the process of, do I just call them? There was things-- because it's such a tight close time between seasons as well, so there was difficulties there. But yeah, just the best way to go about it, and was-- yeah, just giving me a little bit of advice on the phone.

Good. Good. You just sort of set the trail out for you. Yep. Love that. Pretty much. What else has been happening in the life of Jazzy? Are you still with base? Yeah. So still with base. I-- since-- I don't even-- maybe I mentioned this, maybe I didn't, but yeah. Like, graduated completely, and I've been part time at base as well. So how's your role there changed since you've graduated? Which, by the way, have you been on the podcast since you graduated? I have no idea. I can't remember. Maybe. Update the audience, you graduated? I don't know you.

Yeah, I graduated from my master's in EP, Exercise Physiology, which is not a physio. It's very similar in the sense, but we've more managed long-term injuries as opposed to diagnosis and acute management. So from how that's differed prior to-- my role, how that's differed prior to graduation to now, is similar. I now have a provider number, which is exciting so people can claim and all that fun stuff. Oh, nice. It hasn't changed a heap. I think it's just I'm no longer managing uni loads and don't have to change my schedule as often as well. And now I'm very much just in a new grad position of managing.

Got some nice stability. Yeah, more stability. There's always a little bit of chaos because of-- we work in community-based, we work in schools, we work in local sporting clubs as well. And we do their injury rehab and physio and trainers. And so, yeah, there's lots happening all the time. But yeah, a little bit more stability and don't have to be rushing as much. You can actually do the quality, do less and have more quality for what I'm doing. What do you enjoy about coaching and working in that environment that you perhaps don't get in the semi-private, big bustling environment at Virtus?

I think I love problem solving. And I get-- not that you don't do that here, but if you have a client, patient, what you want to call it, you have consults and it's just 30 minutes of problem solving. And you get to actually just delve into one individual and go, OK, what's actually going to be the best plan or process? Because there's no set criteria. You can have a template of questions to ask and everything, but you end up adapting it for each individual. So yeah, the problem solving element and the one-on-one nature that you

get, as well as then-- yeah, we do still have a little bit of chaos, I guess, from all the other programs, but that would probably be the key thing that I like the most. Just putting the detective hat on. Yeah. What other sort of demographic you get there? So we're mainly-- I say healthy population, but we're more a musculoskeletal return to sport. I thought you were going to do the pinky up there. I wasn't sure. Yeah, so return to sports. Healthy population, I guess you can argue, but that's a key demographic that we get all of our youth athletes from our school programs, as well as our local athletes and their injuries.

So essentially, it's very similar to what the injury profiles that you're going to get in a sporting club, but obviously, it's all our wider bayside community as well. And then we also do see some NDIS. So that would be if you've got some form of disability in some state that is affecting their ability to live everyday life. And then either be help seeing physio or exercise physio, so to help them from a long term perspective as well. There probably are two key areas that we see. Nice. Yeah. Do you reckon you'll go back, do any more study, done, done, done?

I don't know, Tyler. That's the last thing you want to think about a few months after you graduated. I'll always-- I'm a bit of a nerd, so I'll always be doing some form of-- I just enjoy going to short courses and conferences and learning in that sense, but I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not in the next three years, probably not. Got a few trips coming up? I have one trip coming up. I was going to go to Nepal, but I didn't end up doing that, but I will eventually do that. I was going to go hiking, but instead I'm going to Queenstown, NZ, just to do a bit of a road trip around.

I'm by myself for a week. That's just as good. Why not doing Nepal? New job things? Yeah, I just didn't end up getting the time, and I know that I just wouldn't-- it just didn't feel like the right time to do it. Yeah. So I'll try and find a few people to come with me next time as well. I'm also a bit nervous I'm going to get lost on the mountain somewhere on my own doing it. Hit us up. I'm always down for a bit of travel. Yeah, OK. Is that been like a lifelong sort of dream destination, Nepal, or-- Yeah, it's on my bucket list.

I wanted to do base camp, but there's also another circuit, the Annapurna circuit. You probably-- but I've spoken a lot about it. It's beautiful. I just enjoy hiking and-- Nature. Yeah. Yeah, I just enjoy the hiking side of things, which would be sick to do. How many Ks are we talking? I don't know, Tyler. It's like eight days of hiking. Oh, right. And like a lot of elevation. I reckon there's probably 4,000 meters of elevation. So you're talking you're full carrying camp gear and shit. So that's proper hiking. No, you stay in-- so I've done my research.

I just haven't booked the trip, I will. You stay in like tea houses, like little mini accommodation. Tea peace or-- No, Tyler. Do they have tea in them or-- [LAUGHTER] Got her. Jesus. They're accommodation up the mountain, essentially. But they're small, as there's not a heap of people at a time that would be hiking. It's just like a mini hostel, I guess. And they serve tea. Yeah, they do. They do, Tyler. But they also serve other things. Yeah, they're just accommodation, similar. It's kind of like a glamping style up the mountain. But yeah, I don't think there's much, obviously.

Not a lot of electricity, not a lot of-- and everything gets more progressively expensive as you go up, because it's harder to get food and essentials up there. That makes sense. Yeah. But yeah, you just kind of stay as long as you want. And each day, there's a certain length of trip that you'd need to do in kilometers-wise. I don't specifically know each day, but I know that there's a lot of elevation, and you're hiking for at least eight to 12 days for the Annapurna circuit. That's big. Yeah. Actually, it's hard. Yeah, I know. How can that be the end of me?

OK, well, it looks like you're not coming for it. Are you training for it, other than the running you're doing? I mean, I don't have a date of when I'm doing it, but I will. I also think I just agreed to a-- I was meant to do a half this year, but that didn't happen. But I just agreed to do a half next year, but I don't know if it's set in stone. So I'll just be doing my running training as well, and see if I can get some hikes, but I'd be saying that's probably more the training I'd be doing.

And then I'll just get there and deal with the consequences. Just hope for the best. Yeah. Have you traveled solo before? You said you're doing New Zealand, Queenstown solo. Like, yes and no. Or is this a comfort zone thing? I've done travel before on my own, just not for a full trip. But I just feel like going on my own. Yeah, good. Are you hiring a van? I'm hiring a car. Yeah. A tiny car. That stuff's expensive. It is. Saw it, and surely not. I think it goes up, because I'm not above the age of 25.

Yeah, that's outrageous. So yeah, obviously there's a risk of crashing. I'm like, well, that's going to happen. Touch wood. So there's a-- Jassy. I think that's why it's more expensive. I don't know. Yeah. What do you plan to do over there? No idea. I haven't planned anything. Give me recommendations. I'm going to Queenstown next March. What, you are? Yeah, I got a wedding, not in Queenstown, but in New Zealand. I'll be chasing up for recommendations. We'll have to do another potty when you get back, which Jassy's excited about. She said before, she doesn't really want to do this.

She says I have to find a lot of guests, so she doesn't have to come on as a backup ever again, because she hates doing it. So here's your chance. Give us some guests, like some Virtus members. Who do you want to see on the potty? I need to get our previous physio from Saints on the podcast, Amy Decker. You need to pee on the podcast. I know she doesn't train at Virtus, but I told her she was going to do a podcast. Yeah, good. And you'll interview her? I led that one down, didn't I? Got her.

Who else? Who else do I want? More Lucy and Billie content, please. You really put me on the spot. I didn't think about this. Who else? Who hasn't been on for a while? Who do you want to see on the podcast, Tyler, while I still think? Everyone. Everyone that occupies our space. Ollie Lappa, I don't think he's been on yet. Has he not? No, I don't think so. Just did a video, I reckon. Yeah, he's just done a testimonial, and I'm moving in with him next weekend. Oh, did you find a place? Yeah, we found a place.

Oh, good. So yeah, he's one I'd love to get on. All right, well done, Ollie. Any of the guys you coach program for? Who do I want to get on here? Did you just pinkies up? I did pinkies up. While you think about that, tell us about the little man on the floor here for those that are listening in the car. Little Harvey's just cuddled up next to Jazz's foot as he's been going. He's getting a bit of doggy training done. Yeah, so he's done two full two hour sessions. The first one wasn't having a bar of it.

The second one, I feel like he was being really strategic and did everything right, because I don't think he liked the lady that came and did it, obviously, because he doesn't want to be disciplined, and he wants to just keep being Harvey, which is undisciplined. So he did everything right, and then he's still-- the transfer of the training into everyday life is-- it still needs some work. But I think he's getting better. So during the session, he's a good boy, and then when he goes back to Jazzy, he knows how to-- he's got you tied around his little paws.

No, because I still train him. But I mean, yeah, my brother's not very good at training him and doesn't want to be, so he's our dog. What's the best thing you've learned from the doggy trainers that you've implemented with Harvey? Different tones of voice. Oh, do you want to give us a demo? No, absolutely not. For context, we were trying to get her to do this the other day. I think in the last Virtus team meeting, I think she actually said that when someone's like, what's the best thing you've learned? And we're trying to get it out of her, like get your angry Harvey voice out, your deep voice.

No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Not on a podcast. Well, I'll have to roll up Harvey, and then you'll have no choice to get it out. Well, there's always a choice. I don't have to. Is he usually responding to your voice? I'm not going to get you to do it, but does he respond when you get the different tones out and get a bit cross? Yep. Yeah, good, good. How's the barking and everything going? Because I know that was a challenge you were facing. Oh, you weren't here today. Nah, nah. Better. Yeah, he just barks a lot.

He gets very excited. I know he's still a puppy, but-- If anyone has any tips and advice, please, he still barks all the time. How old is he? He's 15 months. That's wild. Is he meant to grow anymore, or is he just going to be a little boy for his whole life? Yeah. Pretty sure. I think they've stopped growing. He hasn't grown in a while. Because what is the exact-- I'm not good with dog breeds. He's a cavoodle. Cavoodle, OK. That's a cavalier cross poodle. Good job, Tom. Yeah, so that was a total guess as well.

I just broke it down like caval-- cavalier's the only dog I know that starts with cav. How did you not know that? I feel like every second person has a cavoodle. Yeah. Just not the people in my life, obviously, other than Jazzy. Harvey's the only cavoodle I'm close with. He just had a haircut yesterday. Oh, he's looking super handsome, isn't he? He is a handsome boy. Harvey, do you want to look at the camera? No. What's 2024 looking like for Jazzy? I don't know. No idea. Stability? Ah, probably not. I choose to continue to work in sport, so it's very hard to have stability around that.

So I guess just the first season at Hawks will be up until August of next year. So it's a longer season and timeline in contrast to the AFLW season. And I mean, I don't really think too much else will change, I think, for me. I just want to get more-- I've been consistent with my running and training this year, but I would actually like to do my half next year, so probably train for it and not get-- I got injured through my foot during-- I just-- yeah. Tell us about that. Oh. It was just a tendonopathy through my lateral ankle and stopped me running.

It was really sore. Couldn't run through it, so. How did you manage that? Just literally stop running and then ease your way back into it? I just-- there was-- I had to stop running for about two, three weeks while it settled down. But I have just been playing around with some different shoe types and orthotics and all that fun stuff. And then, yeah, just literally doing as I tell all my rehabbers and all my athletes to do your exercises. So I've just been really consistent and trying to build up my calf and ankle strength. Yeah, good.

And speaking of shoes-- and sorry, I hate talking about visual things when most people are likely listening in the car and can't see shit, but those shoes are mad. Thanks. Like mad, like Adidas. Sort of like my dad's shoes, but like really cool. Yeah, you're not the first person that said that. Really cool, like khaki, colorway, creamy. Yeah, they're mad. So yeah, that's good incentive. Hop on YouTube if you're listening in the car later on and have a look at Jazzy's kicks. Dad shoes. Yeah, they're-- They're not in a pos-- I don't think in a pos-- Nah, they're hella mad.

Nah, fuck Mitch. They're good. They're good. Thanks. So when's the half mara? I don't know yet. You said it's not locked in, set in stone, but like-- I literally think Mitch asked on-- I don't even know what day. It was Friday. He was like, do you want to do a half mara with somebody? I don't know, we're somewhere in Gold Coast. Oh, the Gold Coast, yeah. And I was like, yep. So I have no idea. I just need to actually start training for it. I think that's like mid-year. And it's going to be something that I was maybe going to think about as well.

Come on. I don't know. I think I need a bit more conditioning in my legs. It's not necessarily-- You're a good runner. Yeah, and it's not necessarily-- I am a slow runner. --an aerobic or like fitness thing. It's my little legs are a bit beaten up. From what? Just all this running I'm doing. It's not even much. It's not even much. I just can't hack it. Shins, achilles, knees. Oh, really? I've never been a joint pain person. I've never been-- And you've got joint pain. One of those people was like, oh, god, I'm so sore. What surface are you running?

Are you just concrete? Yeah, just I sometimes go to the track as well. Yeah, OK. Yeah, like obviously being in this field like pretty much daily you listen to people say, oh, god, I'm so sore. And my joints are sore. I've never had that other than like muscle soreness after a workout or something. Holy shit, like my knees. That's why you're going to build your load up. And like, yeah, I'll go to like squat down to kneel down to get something off the floor on my knees. So maybe I'm getting old, Jessie. You're like a year older than me.

Yeah, how old are you? 23. I'm fucking turn 26 in a month. Are you actually? No, you're not. I'm getting old. Your birthday's in January. 26 in January. Are you actually? When's your birthday? January 23. So you are, I'm January 31. I'm getting on. So you're two years and a bit older than me. I don't like that. Which does-- so you go? I was just going to start rambling. I was going to say, it does bring me to the fact that we are pretty much nearly in December at the end of the year looking back over 2023, like what's been sort of a highlight or a big sort of, again, getting you on the spot again.

If you have to think about it and have a bit of dead air, we'll get Georgia to cut it out. So it's not two minutes of jazzy gum, good question. I don't know. Thanks for the interesting presentation. What's been a most exciting thing from 2023? Well, I feel like I've said this on the podcast already. Yeah, graduating was huge. Not having uni anymore was massive to finish that. That was two and a half years of-- Hell. No, I enjoyed it. It was just intense having to do-- sorry, not having to do, getting to do, having like three jobs on top of uni as well.

And then managing that around placement, which wasn't always fun. Sorry, I'm going to sneeze. You're right. No, get ahead. Choo. I can hold it in. Do you notice now like the less workload, or is it sort of thing like two weeks of having no uni, it's nice, but then it's just straight back to real life and you sort of take it for granted? No, I definitely notice a difference. I have time that I didn't previously. I could always make time, but training was like at 4.30 in the morning if I wanted to run, and I wanted to-- which is not-- I'm a morning person, but I don't like that early.

Well, I'm going to say, I'm a morning person, love being up early before everyone else, see the sun rise. But like 4 or 5 AM, even 5 AM to get up here for a coaching shift, that's just dumb. I don't like getting up that early. I'm like a 6.30-- Yeah, that's prime time. --prime. But yeah, I actually can go. And like today, for instance, I've got about a few hours of work to do, but I know I don't have to then go and study on top of that. I can actually just go move and train and know that I can prioritize that aspect and actually dedicate time to something that isn't just study and work.

And it's something-- which I, for me, I just haven't done. I've just been grinding. Like honestly, feel like I've grinded for-- since I started uni, just been managing jobs and work and trying to do the best I can. Outside of the running and the training and stuff, what other things might you dedicate your free time to that will fill Jazzy's cup up? Literally just seeing my friends, like yesterday, two of my really good friends came over. My best friend's a really good cook, so she just cooked us some tacos, and that was wonderful. So yeah, I can actually see my friends and dedicate time to it, which is another thing.

But yeah, going on hikes, day trips. I bought a bike, so I've been doing a little bit of bike riding. Hell yeah. Road bike? Yeah. Nice. Lycra? Hell no. Sorry, if anyone now wears lycra. Jazzy's just defended all the cyclists in our community. Sure. Yeah, I just-- just stirring your coffee. Don't talk about visual things. Continue. Sorry. For context, Tyler's just sitting here with his coffee-- Swirling it. --swirling it around. Yeah, I enjoy my work and I love my work, but I'm pretty simple. And I just enjoy training, seeing my friends, and gymming, that's pretty much.

And then if I'm not doing that, I'm probably doing either being boring-- not boring, I shouldn't say, but reading. Or just chilling with Harvey, training him, taking him for walks, listening to music. Movement, connection, all you need. Yeah, pretty much. Back on the year that's been, very quickly before we wrap up, any biggest challenge from the year? Or not necessarily low point, but challenge or learning? 2023. Outside of uni stuff? I think overall just being OK with not always, I guess, pleasing everyone, but doing things for myself. Leaving Saints was a very tough thing, and I know that was pretty recent.

But just having conversations with people with conversations they're probably not-- I don't know if it's not going to like. I know they're going to be proud of me, and they'll be absolutely-- someone will come into that role and do it. But it wasn't-- it's an answer. It could have gone both ways. We don't know. So that was probably pretty tough. Just having lots of conversations that were tough to say, hey, I'm actually not going to do this anymore. I'm going to go and do something else, which is for myself, which I hate. I just hate that feeling.

I'm very much a-- I am a people pleaser. So I think having conversations in that sense and just having more transparent, robust conversations despite what-- just being honest and just saying, this is what I want, and this is what I want to go do for X, Y, and Z. And being OK with some people might just take some time to digest it and be a little bit more selfish with my time. Yeah, actually, I reckon most of the time the best thing for you is usually not the best thing for someone else. But if you're not honest about that, then that's probably where harm can arise and conflict can arise.

Whereas if you're just straight up and honest and say, hey, I'm doing this for me, then people will be pretty understanding. Yeah, which is obviously-- Almost they're pricks. Which they weren't. No, they were. But yeah, this is honestly probably what I had the 25-minute conversation with Mitch. I was like, what do I do? How do I manage this? Do I send emails? Do I do it? And I was like, at the end of the day, just call straight up and-- Break up over text. Yeah, exactly. You just don't do that. Sorry, you sound like you're on a gem there.

No, I can't even remember what I was going to say. I genuinely feel like I broke up with the previous club and broke up with all my rehabbers. Yeah, I literally cried on my last day of work in front of my boss. I told you we had our embarrassing moments. That was so embarrassing, I couldn't control it. I just started crying, and I've never done that before at work. So yeah, that was fun. But that shows that it's the people there and the girls, and everything was a tough thing to give up. But I'm excited for these new challenges.

And yeah, I've got lots to continue to build and develop. But I know it would be just adapting, adjusting to what I already have been exposed to. Good from you. Yeah, I think a lot of people would either A, just get stagnant and complacent and just stay, or B, to be too afraid of the tough conversation or of hurting other people. And same thing, just stay. Which is where I was-- Good by you for pursuing growth and doing the hard thing. I was close to-- I probably was close to being like, oh, the emotional side of it.

But I knew at the end this was the right decision. It was just a very tough decision. Yep, got to be done. We had two people reply to my story. I whack up with questions. Nice. And I think I can remember them. The first one was-- actually, we'll go with, I think, Georgia asked this, favorite staff member. You can't ask that. Yeah, I know, especially if you're a staff member. Exactly. I can't say that. That's a silly question. That's a silly question, Georgia. You asked that thinking that I obviously-- Yeah, you were going to say her.

Yeah, like, Georgia, you know you're the best. But I can't-- I'm going to sit on the fence here. I don't have favorites. I've got one before we get to the final question. I was like, I've got a favorite staff member. It's me. It is in it. My question-- it's a sensible one. Favorite gym dog other than Harvey? Is it-- it's Theo, isn't it? I met Theo the other day. Oh, yeah, yeah, a little bulldog. I don't know what kind of dog. I was going to say bulldog. I knew that was wrong. Is that a bulldog? A pug?

No, it's not a pug. Oh, yeah, it might be a pug. Could be a pug. Yeah. It was really sweet. I just met him here-- It's Sinead's dog, yeah? Yeah. He was really sweet. He was so funny. Yeah, no, he's beautiful. He sat next to me while I was eating my music bar, and he was like-- I want that, like the whole time I think it was gone. And then he was like, oh, I'll see you later. No, he's just sweet. You're very good natured. Yeah. Final question's from M. Webster. Why are you so perfect? I'm just stupid.

I'm a late. I am. I'm not going to answer that question. And on that, Jassy Podcast is over. I'm surprised you haven't used any other nicknames. Jessington, Manna Jazz. Oh, yeah, my new one. Jessalicious. Jessalicious, that's all I've got. Any final words? See ya.